1 00:00:09,530 --> 00:00:07,010 you're listening to psychologies outer 2 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:09,540 limits with your host professor of 3 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:21,840 psychology eric r williams good evening 4 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:24,000 good afternoon and all the times a day 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:25,529 and night in between welcome to 6 00:00:30,529 --> 00:00:28,050 psychologies outer limits i am your host 7 00:00:32,569 --> 00:00:30,539 professor eric williams and we are 8 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:32,579 broadcasting via the inception radio 9 00:00:40,220 --> 00:00:36,870 network.com our producer is MJ who makes 10 00:00:42,139 --> 00:00:40,230 all the magic work and we encourage and 11 00:00:44,090 --> 00:00:42,149 at times beg for your participation so 12 00:00:45,950 --> 00:00:44,100 here's some doorways to the show my 13 00:00:49,279 --> 00:00:45,960 favorite is the chat room if you go to 14 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:49,289 inception radio network com first click 15 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29 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:38,130 me to answer privately or on the air and 30 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:41,360 that is busy brain radio @ gmail.com 31 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:51,289 tonight you get to live shows let's see 32 00:01:56,420 --> 00:01:53,100 normally paying radios on at nine p.m. 33 00:01:59,569 --> 00:01:56,430 Eastern but tonight after this show will 34 00:02:01,999 --> 00:01:59,579 have part two of the John Ford UFO a 35 00:02:03,770 --> 00:02:02,009 nightmare and I do remember part 1 so 36 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:03,780 part 2 that'll be a really good show so 37 00:02:09,410 --> 00:02:05,600 make sure that you hang around for that 38 00:02:11,420 --> 00:02:09,420 this show psychology's auto limits will 39 00:02:13,130 --> 00:02:11,430 go 90 minutes the ceiling because we 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:13,140 have a guest we have Lori and Fenton and 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:13,690 she 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:18,970 had some really interesting experiences 43 00:02:23,220 --> 00:02:22,330 so oh I'm not going to interview her 44 00:02:27,210 --> 00:02:23,230 we're just going to have a discussion 45 00:02:28,980 --> 00:02:27,220 about her experiences and i'm really i'm 46 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:28,990 looking forward to that and the first 47 00:02:33,660 --> 00:02:31,350 half of the show will be our usual 48 00:02:35,370 --> 00:02:33,670 psychology stuff but we'll bring 49 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:35,380 learning in around a half hour into the 50 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:38,320 show so she'll be on from 732 8 30 and 51 00:02:42,690 --> 00:02:40,300 i'll let her give you the details 52 00:02:46,250 --> 00:02:42,700 because she has a show too and she's 53 00:02:50,190 --> 00:02:46,260 also a section director for MUFON in 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:50,200 California but I know there's more 55 00:02:55,950 --> 00:02:53,050 precise information than that okay so 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:55,960 first of all it's just some little 57 00:03:02,460 --> 00:02:57,610 things some little housekeeping things 58 00:03:06,030 --> 00:03:02,470 if I can find my yeah they were talking 59 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:06,040 about this on another radio station 60 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:07,230 thing I thought was really interesting 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:10,210 and I think I saw it online too I think 62 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:12,010 its target they're going to take the 63 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:14,650 signs down at a toy section that says 64 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:19,209 boys and girls and I don't know why 65 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:20,950 things like this make me crazy they just 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:24,550 do because I don't think that when 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:26,170 five-year-olds going to the store they 68 00:03:30,090 --> 00:03:27,850 really care if there's a sign you know 69 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:30,100 30 feet up in the air that says boys and 70 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:32,200 girls and the idea is that this is 71 00:03:36,810 --> 00:03:34,600 forcing boys and girls to buy boys and 72 00:03:39,570 --> 00:03:36,820 girls toys so if we just take down the 73 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:39,580 boy sign and the girls sign boys would 74 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:41,590 be buying easy-bake ovens and girls and 75 00:03:46,290 --> 00:03:44,200 belonging ak-47s except life doesn't 76 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:46,300 really work that way there's there's 77 00:03:50,070 --> 00:03:47,769 been a lot of people that have tried to 78 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:50,080 raise their children gender neutral why 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:52,090 I don't know I have no problem with 80 00:03:56,490 --> 00:03:54,130 having two sexes I have a problem with 81 00:03:59,330 --> 00:03:56,500 gender discrimination but we're talking 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:03:59,340 about toys and you know as kids develop 83 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:02,290 they do a lot of social referencing I 84 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:04,120 meaning they look around what are other 85 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:07,900 kids my age and other kids that look 86 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:11,560 like me and other kids that are my sex 87 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:13,030 what are they doing because I'm going to 88 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:14,769 do that because I want to belong to the 89 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:16,959 group and there's even some evidence of 90 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:19,630 it that their behavior might even be 91 00:04:23,490 --> 00:04:21,880 biologic or hardwired and if you've 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:23,500 listened the show you know I have quite 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:26,289 a bias towards the biological basis of 94 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:27,010 behavior 95 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:30,280 so yeah I think it's kind of silly for 96 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:32,530 target to take down the sign I think it 97 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:34,360 helps parents but I don't know the toy 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:36,640 section usually all in one place and 99 00:04:41,790 --> 00:04:39,370 this half is for the boys and this half 100 00:04:43,530 --> 00:04:41,800 is for the girls and you know I have two 101 00:04:45,690 --> 00:04:43,540 boys I've been to the toy store a lot 102 00:04:48,030 --> 00:04:45,700 not anymore but I used to and it's 103 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:48,040 pretty easy to tell all the girls side 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:50,050 from the boys side but I don't know what 105 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:53,170 they're trying to prove I think it's 106 00:04:57,270 --> 00:04:55,600 silly but maybe you don't I don't know 107 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:57,280 taking the sign now is not going to 108 00:05:04,590 --> 00:05:00,400 change behavior that would be like 109 00:05:06,090 --> 00:05:04,600 saying if if McDonald's you know took 110 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:06,100 their sign down you wouldn't recognize 111 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:08,230 it anymore and you would immediately go 112 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:11,170 to Whole Foods and start beating up you 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:13,780 know raw vegetables instead I don't know 114 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:15,730 and then that got me thinking about 115 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:19,420 going to stores in general and I'm tall 116 00:05:25,290 --> 00:05:23,650 and thin I'm 6 foot 4 live in a way it 117 00:05:28,470 --> 00:05:25,300 bounces around but you know let's say 118 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:28,480 just right around 190 sometimes they dip 119 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:31,120 down the 185 and sometimes I dip up to 120 00:05:37,230 --> 00:05:35,250 not dip up with up to 195 but the idea 121 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:37,240 what I'm getting at here is buying 122 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:40,180 clothes so I want to I you know that 123 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:43,170 average height and weight for a male and 124 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:47,110 United States is 5 foot 10 180 pounds so 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:50,260 I've got the weight I'm pretty close to 126 00:05:55,380 --> 00:05:52,210 the weight I'm sometimes as much as 10 127 00:05:57,900 --> 00:05:55,390 pounds above that but I'm about 7 inches 128 00:05:59,130 --> 00:05:57,910 taller than the average male now I'm 129 00:06:01,140 --> 00:05:59,140 only going to complain and moan and 130 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:01,150 whine about me but further for the 131 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:05,110 females the average female is 55 155 132 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:08,710 pounds and you know when I go to the 133 00:06:14,190 --> 00:06:10,570 store and I just want to get a pair of 134 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:14,200 blue jeans I need size 36 36 36 waist 36 135 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:18,130 inseam and they're hard to find now we 136 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:20,110 often go to you know store like Kohl's 137 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:23,440 because Beth is a as a coupon queen and 138 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:25,150 she's always got coupons and discounts 139 00:06:28,620 --> 00:06:26,710 and all that and there's you know 140 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:28,630 there's like 190 different kinds of 141 00:06:35,490 --> 00:06:30,730 jeans but I decided that the stores 142 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:35,500 aren't really discriminating against me 143 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:37,270 I think that the stores have decided 144 00:06:41,970 --> 00:06:39,820 that they don't want really tall people 145 00:06:43,790 --> 00:06:41,980 you don't weigh 400 pounds they don't 146 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:43,800 want us getting overwhelmed with choice 147 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:47,520 so if I dig around I can usually find 148 00:06:57,450 --> 00:06:53,050 maybe two styles of the 197 that have 36 149 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:57,460 36 on the shelf and and the store also 150 00:07:01,140 --> 00:06:59,050 doesn't want me to worry about spending 151 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:01,150 too much money so they only stock one 152 00:07:05,970 --> 00:07:03,760 pair and I god it was come back next 153 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:05,980 year when they restock that one pair so 154 00:07:09,870 --> 00:07:07,930 as long as they stay on my schedule buy 155 00:07:12,330 --> 00:07:09,880 one pair of jeans a year I've been good 156 00:07:14,670 --> 00:07:12,340 shape now I know what you're thinking I 157 00:07:16,620 --> 00:07:14,680 think I do because this is a paranormal 158 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:16,630 network and I'm supposed to be able to 159 00:07:21,570 --> 00:07:18,550 do that you're thinking well you know go 160 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:21,580 to kohls and get a pair of jeans then go 161 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:24,160 over to macy's or pennies but she 162 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:26,530 doesn't work that way the stores get 163 00:07:31,470 --> 00:07:28,030 together and they decide who's going to 164 00:07:33,450 --> 00:07:31,480 carry the weird sizes so you know like 165 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:33,460 this year coals going to carry it next 166 00:07:38,630 --> 00:07:34,900 year I'll have to dig around and see you 167 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:38,640 as the 36 36 jeans but i don't know 168 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:40,930 maybe in the chat room you can talk 169 00:07:45,450 --> 00:07:43,930 about it is anybody average is everybody 170 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:45,460 to go to the store and dig around trying 171 00:07:50,610 --> 00:07:47,890 to find clothes if when i walk through a 172 00:07:53,820 --> 00:07:50,620 typical store nobody on which to me 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:53,830 people look under weight overweight or 174 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:55,810 tall I don't know I don't see a whole 175 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:57,370 lot of average but imagine if you were 176 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:00,160 average it would be overwhelming what if 177 00:08:05,790 --> 00:08:01,390 I went into store and I had all that 178 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:05,800 choice and and then I spent too much i 179 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:07,330 could go bankrupt i could end up living 180 00:08:12,180 --> 00:08:09,670 under a bridge sharing a bottle of cheap 181 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:12,190 wine with some you know some guy named 182 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:14,310 Bubba so maybe they're doing me a favor 183 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:18,310 all right now completely unrelated i 184 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:19,930 forget what made me think about talking 185 00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:24,400 about this is types of therapy we 186 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:25,750 haven't talked about that and when we 187 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:28,210 should talk about it a little bit when 188 00:08:32,130 --> 00:08:29,800 when you decide you want to see a 189 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:32,140 therapist you know I you really should 190 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:36,250 do a little bit of research a lot of 191 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:40,330 therapists are good okay but 192 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:42,370 unfortunately there's another group also 193 00:08:48,180 --> 00:08:47,110 a lot and aren't so good so first of all 194 00:08:51,210 --> 00:08:48,190 you know trying to get some 195 00:08:53,310 --> 00:08:51,220 recommendations make sure they have 196 00:08:55,890 --> 00:08:53,320 credentials like they went to call 197 00:08:57,540 --> 00:08:55,900 because you know general you have to you 198 00:08:59,460 --> 00:08:57,550 have have certain degrees and 199 00:09:02,040 --> 00:08:59,470 credentials but you can get around it by 200 00:09:03,780 --> 00:09:02,050 just calling yourself something slightly 201 00:09:05,610 --> 00:09:03,790 different than in furs therapy but 202 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:05,620 you're not really a therapy so when I 203 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:07,630 had a practice I had all my degrees 204 00:09:11,930 --> 00:09:09,910 everything on the wall across from where 205 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:11,940 the person said so they would know that 206 00:09:18,420 --> 00:09:15,760 that I was I had gone to school and 207 00:09:22,620 --> 00:09:18,430 studied all this stuff but not all all 208 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:22,630 forms of therapy that all people and not 209 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:25,690 all therapists fit all people I I have 210 00:09:30,930 --> 00:09:27,460 talked to so many people that said that 211 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:30,940 you know they'd been there before and I 212 00:09:36,390 --> 00:09:33,310 said how did it go and I didn't really 213 00:09:38,940 --> 00:09:36,400 like him or her well how long did you go 214 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:38,950 I don't know about a year my gosh we 215 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:41,440 would you go to would you buy any other 216 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:43,390 product for a year from someone or 217 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:45,490 something you didn't like you know I 218 00:09:50,550 --> 00:09:47,470 know it's it's it takes a lot of courage 219 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:50,560 to get up and go to a therapist and 220 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:52,930 unfortunately it wouldn't be fun to have 221 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:55,480 to start over but you should and it 222 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:57,190 could be a perfectly good therapist if 223 00:10:00,450 --> 00:09:58,930 you don't click you don't click and you 224 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:00,460 got to find someone with whom you do 225 00:10:04,950 --> 00:10:02,350 click I don't know if there's any 226 00:10:07,170 --> 00:10:04,960 research for this but I find that women 227 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:07,180 and men do well with the opposite sex 228 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:10,030 maybe it's because we don't let each 229 00:10:14,910 --> 00:10:11,890 other get away with things that we would 230 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:14,920 if we were the same sex so that might be 231 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:17,380 a place to start a lot of therapists 232 00:10:23,220 --> 00:10:20,320 call themselves CBT cognitive behavioral 233 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:23,230 therapist the cognitive approach is to 234 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:26,260 attack irrational thinking so though as 235 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:27,970 your client that your patient says 236 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:30,210 things that are illogical or irrational 237 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:32,890 you talk about that you talk about how 238 00:10:36,750 --> 00:10:35,260 maybe that couldn't be true and they 239 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:36,760 throw in a little bit of the behavioral 240 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:39,010 approach to you know try to change 241 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:43,570 behavior a little bit so that's cbt 242 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:45,370 that's a combination of two but some 243 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:47,590 therapist are pure cognitive therapist 244 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:50,770 and what they do is you talk and not 245 00:10:54,810 --> 00:10:52,810 have attack or go after the things that 246 00:10:57,450 --> 00:10:54,820 you say that are irrational illogical 247 00:11:03,260 --> 00:10:57,460 and are hurting so that would be one 248 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:03,270 class then there there are we are pure 249 00:11:07,049 --> 00:11:06,130 behavioral therapists and they away in 250 00:11:09,719 --> 00:11:07,059 what they 251 00:11:12,089 --> 00:11:09,729 do as they look at behavior and strategy 252 00:11:13,019 --> 00:11:12,099 is to change behavior they don't care or 253 00:11:15,119 --> 00:11:13,029 what happened to you when you were 254 00:11:17,579 --> 00:11:15,129 little I don't really care about your 255 00:11:19,889 --> 00:11:17,589 thought processes what they care about 256 00:11:23,039 --> 00:11:19,899 is what you do and if what you do was 257 00:11:25,289 --> 00:11:23,049 hurting you then you learn to do 258 00:11:26,969 --> 00:11:25,299 something else because everything we do 259 00:11:30,509 --> 00:11:26,979 we learned and if you learned it you can 260 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:30,519 unlearn it even phobias I did and you 261 00:11:33,719 --> 00:11:31,929 know whether or not you should go to a 262 00:11:36,839 --> 00:11:33,729 therapist with a phobia depends on 263 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:36,849 impairment you know if you're afraid of 264 00:11:40,769 --> 00:11:38,409 snakes it's pretty easy to stay away 265 00:11:43,019 --> 00:11:40,779 from snakes but if you're afraid of 266 00:11:44,609 --> 00:11:43,029 flying and your dream job finally comes 267 00:11:46,619 --> 00:11:44,619 to you have to fly a lot and I would go 268 00:11:50,669 --> 00:11:46,629 see someone to get some help up with 269 00:11:52,829 --> 00:11:50,679 that or elevators or whatever and the 270 00:11:54,689 --> 00:11:52,839 rarest kind of therapist that you might 271 00:11:58,109 --> 00:11:54,699 see because you really have to be well 272 00:11:59,849 --> 00:11:58,119 off as a as a true cycle analyst these 273 00:12:02,729 --> 00:11:59,859 are usually psychiatrists on their MDS 274 00:12:04,799 --> 00:12:02,739 and you know they go to they go there 275 00:12:07,019 --> 00:12:04,809 for years it's together there's a 276 00:12:10,169 --> 00:12:07,029 medical school they do two to four years 277 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:10,179 of residency and another several years 278 00:12:15,809 --> 00:12:13,509 of a psychoanalytic school and they can 279 00:12:18,659 --> 00:12:15,819 charge anywhere from five hundred 280 00:12:20,849 --> 00:12:18,669 dollars to a thousand dollars or more 281 00:12:23,339 --> 00:12:20,859 per hour and they usually want to see 282 00:12:24,929 --> 00:12:23,349 you several times a week so your 283 00:12:27,419 --> 00:12:24,939 insurance isn't going to be up for that 284 00:12:28,829 --> 00:12:27,429 and you would really need I I mean I'm 285 00:12:31,229 --> 00:12:28,839 assuming they only see wealthy people 286 00:12:34,739 --> 00:12:31,239 unless they do a lot of pro bono work 287 00:12:36,269 --> 00:12:34,749 and there's some other you know kinds in 288 00:12:38,939 --> 00:12:36,279 between but you know if you're going to 289 00:12:41,669 --> 00:12:38,949 see a therapist see find someone that 290 00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:41,679 you get along with asking what kind of 291 00:12:47,669 --> 00:12:45,519 therapy they do and you could ask them 292 00:12:49,859 --> 00:12:47,679 are you kind of a directive therapist or 293 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:49,869 are you more non-directive a 294 00:12:55,019 --> 00:12:51,849 non-directive therapist is very quiet 295 00:12:56,969 --> 00:12:55,029 then kind of nudges you long until you 296 00:12:59,309 --> 00:12:56,979 figure things out and they feel like 297 00:13:01,979 --> 00:12:59,319 that's better if you figured out you own 298 00:13:03,749 --> 00:13:01,989 it and a directive therapist jumps in 299 00:13:06,449 --> 00:13:03,759 and wants to get their hands dirty and 300 00:13:08,669 --> 00:13:06,459 that's kind of the way I do it by the 301 00:13:11,939 --> 00:13:08,679 kind of therapy I practice is called 302 00:13:13,949 --> 00:13:11,949 existential and it can be boiled down to 303 00:13:17,099 --> 00:13:13,959 you're responsible for your own behavior 304 00:13:19,109 --> 00:13:17,109 you don't get the blame anybody else if 305 00:13:20,260 --> 00:13:19,119 it's bothering you then you got to fix 306 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:20,270 it 307 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:27,050 anyway I wanted to cover that today 308 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:29,510 because a lot of people i don't know 309 00:13:32,890 --> 00:13:31,220 they they put less time in the picking 310 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:32,900 therapist and they wouldn't getting a 311 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:35,360 new pair of sneakers the therapists are 312 00:13:38,850 --> 00:13:37,130 not stamped down on assembly line we're 313 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:38,860 all different we have different 314 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:41,060 personalities and we have different 315 00:13:45,340 --> 00:13:43,670 preferences and if you find that you're 316 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:45,350 very thin-skinned then you don't want to 317 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:48,170 see somebody like me but if you find it 318 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:52,430 you want to you know you want to have an 319 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:55,550 interactive therapist throws out a lot 320 00:13:59,920 --> 00:13:57,410 of ideas and gives you homework to do 321 00:14:02,290 --> 00:13:59,930 and maybe you'll get done sooner or then 322 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:02,300 you do want to see somebody like me but 323 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:03,920 sometimes you leave therapy at least 324 00:14:08,170 --> 00:14:05,570 that day feeling worse and you came in 325 00:14:10,030 --> 00:14:08,180 but that's that's kind of like setting a 326 00:14:11,530 --> 00:14:10,040 broken bone for a moment it's going to 327 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:11,540 hurt really bad then you're going to 328 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:13,730 start getting better there are P can be 329 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,710 like that and we do this slightly out of 330 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:20,720 order let me find my crazy people in the 331 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:26,330 news I kind of enjoy this crazy people 332 00:14:32,590 --> 00:14:29,050 in the news okay let's start with China 333 00:14:35,020 --> 00:14:32,600 hey this is interesting this is a lot of 334 00:14:36,730 --> 00:14:35,030 people behaving oddly so that there's a 335 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:36,740 there's a swamp woman she lives in a 336 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:38,990 suburb in China right in Beijing 337 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:41,570 actually and she filed a lawsuit against 338 00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:43,820 the growl a cemetery the china dragon 339 00:14:48,970 --> 00:14:46,550 garden graveyard because she found her 340 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:48,980 name on a headstone in gold lettering 341 00:14:55,150 --> 00:14:51,710 and then she found that about half of 342 00:14:57,790 --> 00:14:55,160 the 600 plots were marked for prominent 343 00:14:59,980 --> 00:14:57,800 and still living people that lived 344 00:15:02,950 --> 00:14:59,990 around the area and it turns out that 345 00:15:06,850 --> 00:15:02,960 the cemetery considers that kind of a 346 00:15:08,830 --> 00:15:06,860 marketing practice to put people's names 347 00:15:11,140 --> 00:15:08,840 that you know live around that area that 348 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:11,150 are well off so that you'll think well 349 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:12,770 you know maybe I should go there they 350 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:14,450 know who I am they've got my name on a 351 00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:16,330 marker I think it's kind of creepy 352 00:15:25,150 --> 00:15:22,880 anyway I am let's see I don't know if 353 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:25,160 the article doesn't say if they were 354 00:15:32,530 --> 00:15:28,310 allowed to do that or not okay now let's 355 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:32,540 go from Beijing all the way to Texas 356 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:35,130 texas highest criminal appeals court 357 00:15:40,490 --> 00:15:37,980 agreed on july 17 hours before clifton 358 00:15:42,860 --> 00:15:40,500 williams was to be executed to a 359 00:15:46,090 --> 00:15:42,870 postponement until they could consider 360 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:46,100 the significance of perhaps faulty math 361 00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:50,220 presented to the jury in 2006 now listen 362 00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:52,040 uh this math listen closely here 363 00:16:00,740 --> 00:15:55,380 prosecutors had claimed at his trial at 364 00:16:05,710 --> 00:16:00,750 the likelihood of another man having his 365 00:16:10,060 --> 00:16:05,720 DNA was one in 43 sextillion so that's 366 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,070 43 followed by 2100 43 billion trillion 367 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:12,720 but Texas officials have recently 368 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,390 recalculated the FBI developed database 369 00:16:20,329 --> 00:16:18,000 and concluded it was somewhat more 370 00:16:22,699 --> 00:16:20,339 likely that a second person would have 371 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:22,709 his profile would be one in 40 billion 372 00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:26,130 trillion well there's only seven and a 373 00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:29,220 half billion people on the planet so 374 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:33,120 ostensibly the difference between 43 375 00:16:38,630 --> 00:16:37,170 sextillion and 40 billion trillion there 376 00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:38,640 is no difference when you're only 377 00:16:45,050 --> 00:16:42,750 talking about 7 billion people by just 378 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:45,060 insane I mean personally I'm against the 379 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:46,529 death penalty I'm glad that he's not 380 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:50,160 going to be executed but that's a damned 381 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:54,660 odd reason not to and and well and what 382 00:17:02,060 --> 00:16:56,790 did you think about the Colorado the 383 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:02,070 Aurora Colorado guy the the jury was 384 00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:04,199 giving every indication that we're going 385 00:17:12,590 --> 00:17:09,240 to do the death penalty for him because 386 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:12,600 they had rejected the prosecution's 387 00:17:17,059 --> 00:17:14,610 argument that he shouldn't be considered 388 00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:17,069 for the death penalty but they gave him 389 00:17:21,380 --> 00:17:19,500 life in prison and so that as a 390 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:21,390 psychologist to have it you know I mean 391 00:17:26,929 --> 00:17:23,400 I probably read as much and so as much 392 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:26,939 as anybody else but I really do think 393 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:30,450 that the young guy is is absolutely 394 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:33,450 insane and did not know what he was 395 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:38,010 doing and and did not and really had no 396 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:41,520 idea what was going on at the trial now 397 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:43,440 of course I would feel differently if 398 00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:45,480 one of my children or family members had 399 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:46,040 been 400 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:49,370 kill and that's why we don't you know 401 00:17:53,710 --> 00:17:51,530 make laws based on people that recently 402 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:53,720 went through that kind of a trauma we 403 00:17:58,270 --> 00:17:55,130 have to be a little more rational about 404 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:58,280 it but and yeah you know the other 405 00:18:01,750 --> 00:17:59,330 interesting thing about the death 406 00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:01,760 penalty I think I could do a little more 407 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:04,640 research but I just confirm this my son 408 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:09,700 was telling me this that the it's the 409 00:18:15,610 --> 00:18:13,730 licensing group for doctors and I think 410 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:15,620 what they just did was that if you're an 411 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:20,450 MD and you participate in a execution 412 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:23,450 you will lose your license now almost 413 00:18:27,250 --> 00:18:25,850 every state has a law that says that a 414 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:27,260 doctor has to be present during an 415 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:29,030 execution so they're going to have to 416 00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:30,920 rewrite their laws now but maybe the 417 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:34,160 nurses will do it and the physician's 418 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:36,320 assistants will do good and then there's 419 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:38,690 practitioners you know maybe all the I 420 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:41,450 mean I see their point people on 421 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:42,710 medicine aren't in the business of 422 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:45,770 killing people so that's one prime and 423 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:47,510 they already have out the problem that 424 00:18:55,450 --> 00:18:51,470 the drug cocktail they prefer drug 425 00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:55,460 cocktail is only available in europe and 426 00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:57,110 europe will no longer sell it to the 427 00:19:01,150 --> 00:18:59,120 united states so they don't have their 428 00:19:03,850 --> 00:19:01,160 preferred drug cocktail and now they 429 00:19:06,970 --> 00:19:03,860 don't have doctors so it almost sounds 430 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:06,980 like people are finding ways to get rid 431 00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:09,890 of the death penalty and and my bias is 432 00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:11,840 i don't believe in it anyway because we 433 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:13,640 make too many mistakes but that's my 434 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:15,530 bias i have no idea if I'm right or 435 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:18,850 wrong let's get back to crazy people 436 00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:22,010 Jason Patterson's and who was upset at 437 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:23,150 New Zealand's healthcare 438 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:25,610 administration's having rejected paying 439 00:19:32,410 --> 00:19:28,790 for gastric bypass surgery you know this 440 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:32,420 makes it harder to hold a lot of food in 441 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:34,430 your stomach and it's like gastric band 442 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:37,850 surgery helps you lose weight so he 443 00:19:42,730 --> 00:19:40,250 decided that he would protest publicly 444 00:19:45,220 --> 00:19:42,740 by going on a hunger strike man that'll 445 00:19:47,290 --> 00:19:45,230 show I wanted he says the first two or 446 00:19:49,660 --> 00:19:47,300 three days will be really hard so after 447 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:49,670 after he loses all that way from his 448 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:52,070 hunger strike the New Zealand health 449 00:19:57,310 --> 00:19:53,450 care administration will have been 450 00:19:59,650 --> 00:19:57,320 thoroughly shamed no I mean that is one 451 00:20:02,350 --> 00:19:59,660 way to lose weight is just to eat less 452 00:20:05,070 --> 00:20:02,360 it's just the way he's going about it I 453 00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:05,080 suppose all right let's say let's go to 454 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:09,080 France a 27 year old man entertaining 455 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:12,310 friends at his home in colmar France 456 00:20:17,710 --> 00:20:15,350 this was on the country's national day 457 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:17,720 which is probably like our fourth of 458 00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:20,810 July independence day anyway he suffered 459 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:22,400 serious injuries when he fell from his 460 00:20:28,210 --> 00:20:25,610 third-floor balcony while said his 461 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:28,220 friends leaning over to spit on police 462 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:32,090 officers below I would say that he 463 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:33,770 committed a crime and he was punished 464 00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:36,470 all in just a split second that worked 465 00:20:42,610 --> 00:20:40,280 out pretty well didn't it a video going 466 00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:42,620 viral on social media appears to show a 467 00:20:48,250 --> 00:20:44,990 checkers fast food worker wiping the 468 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:48,260 floor with a bun and then using the soil 469 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:51,500 of bread to make a sandwich now they 470 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:53,000 don't know if the sandwich was actually 471 00:21:00,100 --> 00:20:55,250 given to a customer or if it was a hoax 472 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:00,110 but we've seen other videos like that so 473 00:21:04,990 --> 00:21:02,510 maybe it did happen I guess with the 474 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:05,000 pend on how dirty their floor is I would 475 00:21:08,770 --> 00:21:06,350 assume what's on their floor is mostly 476 00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:08,780 food that's spilled their and our last 477 00:21:14,650 --> 00:21:12,230 one we have to go to Belgrade Serbia the 478 00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,660 head of serbia's state lottery resigned 479 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:16,400 and several other employees are under 480 00:21:20,770 --> 00:21:18,950 investigation after a winning lottery 481 00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:20,780 number was shown a live television 482 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:23,630 before it was drawn oh that's 483 00:21:28,690 --> 00:21:26,870 interesting before it was drawn that 484 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:28,700 means that they don't really draw the 485 00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:32,000 winning lawyering number or they draw it 486 00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:34,070 and then they pretend the drawing but 487 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:35,660 the winning lottery number was showin 488 00:21:41,050 --> 00:21:39,350 before or the drawing and author of 489 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:41,060 people in Cir Bureau sleep or not or 490 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:43,190 maybe it has time you can block it but 491 00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:45,770 nobody won the lottery I wonder if they 492 00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:47,600 do that here if it's just the Sham they 493 00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:50,180 just choose the numbers all right well 494 00:21:56,610 --> 00:21:51,620 that's pretty much it for crazy people 495 00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:56,620 in the news I'll have more next time 496 00:22:02,800 --> 00:21:59,840 let's see here all right we got a few 497 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:02,810 minutes left let's look at some let's 498 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:05,890 look at some cool things in psychologies 499 00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:08,570 I've got too many articles for six 500 00:22:13,470 --> 00:22:10,990 minutes so I want to find some 501 00:22:16,860 --> 00:22:13,480 I want to find something that might be 502 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:16,870 useful for you let's see well I don't 503 00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:18,730 how useful this is but I found it really 504 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:25,600 interesting congenial ickle affiliation 505 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:28,860 or at least liberal versus conservative 506 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:31,360 so in this study they worked with 507 00:22:36,270 --> 00:22:33,370 seventeen hundred and seventy-one 508 00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:36,280 university students okay and they were 509 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:42,700 looking at a specific gene drd4 which is 510 00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:45,700 a dope 'let which is on dopamine it's a 511 00:22:50,490 --> 00:22:48,100 very critical neurotransmitter and they 512 00:22:53,820 --> 00:22:50,500 found a link between the presence or not 513 00:22:57,169 --> 00:22:53,830 of that variant and a split between 514 00:23:00,150 --> 00:22:57,179 liberals on the one hand or 515 00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:00,160 conservatives on the other and when they 516 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:02,020 say robust length they're saying that 517 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:04,030 you would you know if you bet on it 518 00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:05,800 you'd win a lot more often than you 519 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:07,960 would lose now would not be interesting 520 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,170 if it really was the case that part of 521 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:13,840 you being liberal or conservative is 522 00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:16,990 hardwired that is absolutely amazing the 523 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:19,929 study also showed that women tended to 524 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:21,910 be more conservative in general and I 525 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:23,410 think that kind of surprised me a little 526 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:27,370 bit though I'm not sure why and another 527 00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:30,070 study this was a landmark study a big 528 00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:33,400 study showed the twins separated at or 529 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:35,950 near birth showed a March strain of 530 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:39,280 heritability for conservative so even if 531 00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:41,890 they weren't raised together now this 532 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:43,720 would be better if we knew for sure they 533 00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:45,940 were identical twins because then they'd 534 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:49,000 have identical DNA but they they did not 535 00:23:56,610 --> 00:23:52,230 have identical DNA so i'm not sure but 536 00:23:59,360 --> 00:23:56,620 still you know it kind of reinforces my 537 00:24:03,180 --> 00:23:59,370 notion that a lot of behavior is 538 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:03,190 biologically driven how to get rid of 539 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:06,400 negative thoughts i think even if you're 540 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:08,950 not suffering from a disorder we think 541 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:11,530 everybody goes through times when they 542 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:14,170 have intrusive anxious or negative 543 00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:17,410 thoughts and the one thing that doesn't 544 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:19,540 work is to try to repress them try to 545 00:24:23,850 --> 00:24:22,090 make them go away you know if I said 546 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:23,860 don't think about a big white elephant 547 00:24:25,870 --> 00:24:24,320 then 548 00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:25,880 the only thing you can think about is a 549 00:24:30,190 --> 00:24:28,159 big white elephant and it's the same 550 00:24:31,779 --> 00:24:30,200 thing you know that there's been a lot 551 00:24:34,029 --> 00:24:31,789 of research done so precious thought 552 00:24:37,289 --> 00:24:34,039 suppression simply doesn't work in fact 553 00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:37,299 it makes it worse so here were some 554 00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:39,860 suggestions I do like the first one it's 555 00:24:45,159 --> 00:24:42,620 called focus distraction and what this 556 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:45,169 means is you don't try to suppress or 557 00:24:49,419 --> 00:24:47,630 get rid of the negative thought you just 558 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:49,429 try to think about something else 559 00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:52,190 something wrong something happy but 560 00:24:56,649 --> 00:24:53,929 bring that thought into your head and 561 00:24:58,919 --> 00:24:56,659 think about that so that one makes sense 562 00:25:02,139 --> 00:24:58,929 and I like it and I tell people this one 563 00:25:04,450 --> 00:25:02,149 when I'm kept mostly them number two 564 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:04,460 says avoid stress well yeah but you know 565 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,129 some people's lives are such they cannot 566 00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:09,919 avoid stress so we're you know they can 567 00:25:15,490 --> 00:25:12,590 go back to the first one post pound of 568 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:15,500 thought until later now this works I 569 00:25:20,919 --> 00:25:17,210 know it sounds a little bit weird but it 570 00:25:24,909 --> 00:25:20,929 does work because I you know I quit 571 00:25:26,409 --> 00:25:24,919 smoking about 13 years ago and one of 572 00:25:28,389 --> 00:25:26,419 the things that they tell you when you 573 00:25:30,940 --> 00:25:28,399 quit smoking is that when you get to 574 00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:30,950 urge the smoke say okay I'm not going to 575 00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:32,600 say I'm not going to smoke but i will 576 00:25:37,509 --> 00:25:35,720 wait five minutes I don't know if I want 577 00:25:39,970 --> 00:25:37,519 the cigarette I'll have it and you know 578 00:25:41,259 --> 00:25:39,980 I did that and you know even three 579 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:41,269 minutes later I'd forgotten that I 580 00:25:44,110 --> 00:25:42,919 wanted to smoke so the thought here is 581 00:25:46,090 --> 00:25:44,120 you say okay I'm going to have this 582 00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:46,100 negative thought but I'm going to wait 583 00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,200 and what will happen is most of the time 584 00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:51,039 you know you won't get around to it or 585 00:25:59,379 --> 00:25:54,289 designate a period of your day when all 586 00:26:02,259 --> 00:25:59,389 you do is worry now that one I I don't 587 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:02,269 know how I feel about that one I don't 588 00:26:08,139 --> 00:26:05,090 like to tell people to worry paradoxical 589 00:26:09,999 --> 00:26:08,149 therapy is an approach it's kind of not 590 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:10,009 for the faint-hearted but what you could 591 00:26:17,169 --> 00:26:12,980 do is focus hard on the negative thought 592 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:17,179 almost till you make it explode and that 593 00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:18,769 does what it does work it works with a 594 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:21,320 lot of people and there's a certain form 595 00:26:24,580 --> 00:26:23,120 of therapy that's just based completely 596 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:24,590 on this if you're worried about 597 00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:26,210 something that therapist says well let's 598 00:26:31,899 --> 00:26:28,340 worry about it as a matter of fact let's 599 00:26:33,730 --> 00:26:31,909 just make it worse and if it doesn't 600 00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:33,740 kill you then you shouldn't worry about 601 00:26:39,879 --> 00:26:37,639 it so much number five is acceptance 602 00:26:42,099 --> 00:26:39,889 but I think that's similar to the first 603 00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:42,109 one just you know I often tell people 604 00:26:46,719 --> 00:26:44,289 that have intrusive negative thoughts to 605 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,729 pretend like it's so moving don't 606 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:48,799 interact with it just watch let it flow 607 00:26:53,019 --> 00:26:51,529 pass in front of you what when you first 608 00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,029 try to do any of these things you'll 609 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:54,799 find that your brain might try a little 610 00:26:58,509 --> 00:26:56,690 hard to be anxious it's a bit of a 611 00:27:01,060 --> 00:26:58,519 learning curve but then it gets better 612 00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:01,070 but acceptance would be just let it 613 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:03,950 float past you don't talk to it don't 614 00:27:07,479 --> 00:27:06,169 start having these conversations in your 615 00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:07,489 head when you make it worse and worse 616 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:10,639 just let it float past you don't try to 617 00:27:15,479 --> 00:27:12,769 make it go away don't try to make it 618 00:27:19,389 --> 00:27:15,489 better or worse just let it float 619 00:27:25,930 --> 00:27:19,399 meditation if you have time seems to 620 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:25,940 work well self affirmations I don't feel 621 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:28,609 strongly about that one because there's 622 00:27:32,589 --> 00:27:30,529 also research that she says that if you 623 00:27:34,209 --> 00:27:32,599 if you're saying I wonder if all I'm 624 00:27:35,499 --> 00:27:34,219 great nothing bad is going to happen to 625 00:27:37,899 --> 00:27:35,509 and you don't believe it you know you 626 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:37,909 just get worse and then the last one was 627 00:27:43,539 --> 00:27:41,570 right about it and i'm too lazy to do 628 00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:43,549 that but if you do right if you do kit 629 00:27:49,690 --> 00:27:45,950 if you do journal it does seem to help I 630 00:27:51,629 --> 00:27:49,700 have no idea why but maybe it's just 631 00:27:54,579 --> 00:27:51,639 because you have to think about it 632 00:27:56,199 --> 00:27:54,589 rationally to get it down one line at a 633 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:56,209 time and you can read it and maybe you 634 00:28:01,839 --> 00:27:57,679 can in a way you become your own 635 00:28:03,399 --> 00:28:01,849 therapist you are you you read it you 636 00:28:05,949 --> 00:28:03,409 say oh gosh now that I'm looking at this 637 00:28:08,649 --> 00:28:05,959 it doesn't look so sensible to me 638 00:28:11,769 --> 00:28:08,659 anymore alright well I didn't get quite 639 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:11,779 as many of those in as I wanted to but 640 00:28:14,229 --> 00:28:13,190 what we're going to do it is going to 641 00:28:17,949 --> 00:28:14,239 take a break and then we're going to 642 00:28:19,629 --> 00:28:17,959 bring you lorien Fenton and have a nice 643 00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,639 discussion for an hour about her 644 00:28:24,909 --> 00:28:22,399 experiences and a little back and forth 645 00:28:26,699 --> 00:28:24,919 so go get yourself something to drink or 646 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:26,709 eat or go to the bathroom walk the dog 647 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:29,690 whatever you do and we'll be back in a 648 00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:37,390 and we are back and we have our guests 649 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:40,230 primed and ready to go here our guest 650 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:43,590 this evening is luring in fenton and she 651 00:28:49,550 --> 00:28:47,730 has her show the same network nine pm-11 652 00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:49,560 stay I'll let her correct me in a moment 653 00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:52,980 and lorien is an experiencer and I'm 654 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:55,470 gonna let her explain that and we're 655 00:29:00,110 --> 00:28:57,810 gonna have a discussion about that how 656 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:00,120 you doing lorien I'm doing great Eric 657 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:01,770 thank you for having me on your show I 658 00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:04,290 really appreciate it no I'm very excited 659 00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:07,140 to have you here I really marketed this 660 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:09,480 on Facebook and everything because I 661 00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:14,010 listen to your show a lot and Europe you 662 00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:15,870 have a really good personality and your 663 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:19,320 upbeat and smart so can't ask for a 664 00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:21,270 better person to share some time I'm 665 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:23,460 with well thank you for that i really 666 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:25,380 appreciate it because it's very 667 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:28,640 difficult coming from my background as a 668 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:31,110 professional artist and kind of like a 669 00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:34,620 spiritual psychic kind of person to end 670 00:29:40,550 --> 00:29:37,140 up in the world i ended up in and when i 671 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:40,560 was 53 years old I'm 57 right now and 672 00:29:48,290 --> 00:29:45,450 almost 58 and I'm so much Oh wonderful i 673 00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:48,300 was born in 1957 the year the best fins 674 00:29:56,030 --> 00:29:51,750 on a Chevy ever made but your parents 675 00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,040 tell you that no I just I love 57 Chevys 676 00:30:01,220 --> 00:29:58,320 and when I got older when I was about 18 677 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:01,230 i finally bought one it was in a 678 00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:04,110 junkyard it was falling apart and we 679 00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:05,670 restored it to the point where it was 680 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:08,670 drivable but ya know I love those cars 681 00:30:12,380 --> 00:30:11,130 they were fabulous I'm a 57 Chevy I mean 682 00:30:15,530 --> 00:30:12,390 how many songs have been written about 683 00:30:17,270 --> 00:30:15,540 the 57 Chevy oh I know it's just it's a 684 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,280 classic I've gotta have ever if I ever 685 00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:18,960 get rich and famous that's what I'm 686 00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:20,430 gonna buy first thing I'm going to buy a 687 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:25,020 19 67 Camaro and i'm going to buy 688 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:27,570 nineteen fifty seven Chevy you know I 689 00:30:34,460 --> 00:30:31,530 had a 76 Camaro I think back when 690 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:34,470 American cars weren't made well and over 691 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:36,330 the course of a year it just completely 692 00:30:42,290 --> 00:30:38,970 fell apart oh I know that was a terribly 693 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:42,300 over 74 278 were the worst years cars 694 00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:44,970 were ever made the screws that held all 695 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:46,740 the panels in the car were like an 696 00:30:48,899 --> 00:30:48,330 eighth of an inch thick and they would 697 00:30:51,869 --> 00:30:48,909 just pop 698 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:51,879 out and watch right in the first year I 699 00:30:57,989 --> 00:30:55,570 thought oh my god what a nightmare now 700 00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,999 you look at a car and it's 15 years old 701 00:31:02,009 --> 00:30:59,440 and it looked like I just came off the 702 00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:02,019 assembly line I know it's me um but 703 00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:05,769 before nineteen seventy five ish 74 cars 704 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,399 were made with steel they had welding 705 00:31:13,849 --> 00:31:11,440 done to them I mean nothing like these 706 00:31:17,639 --> 00:31:13,859 now there's not a well done that car 707 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:17,649 it's all plastic well the plastic and 708 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:21,129 there they are rust proof because there 709 00:31:28,169 --> 00:31:24,309 I just forgot the word for galva a nice 710 00:31:31,469 --> 00:31:28,179 deal yeah so they don't rust through so 711 00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:31,479 I know that because this I don't know oh 712 00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,190 you were talking about how you how you 713 00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:35,679 were born we were to say i was born in 714 00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:38,139 58 but i was born the first day of 58 715 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:40,840 gentle at first so we're probably only a 716 00:31:44,999 --> 00:31:42,849 few months apart you can write 717 00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:45,009 everything much older than you so mind 718 00:31:51,479 --> 00:31:48,159 your elders Eric oh well I'm so great 719 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:51,489 deference and respect I know people that 720 00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:53,289 listen to these shows know what an 721 00:31:59,609 --> 00:31:56,590 experiencer is but um could you explain 722 00:32:01,649 --> 00:31:59,619 that a little bit well you know Eric I 723 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:01,659 have a really hard time with that word 724 00:32:06,509 --> 00:32:04,529 because i am not your typical 725 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:06,519 experiencer when people think of an 726 00:32:10,259 --> 00:32:07,809 experience or they think of somebody 727 00:32:13,469 --> 00:32:10,269 who's been abducted by the greys or or 728 00:32:14,879 --> 00:32:13,479 seen the reptilians or has contact with 729 00:32:17,999 --> 00:32:14,889 the spiritual being from another 730 00:32:21,149 --> 00:32:18,009 dimension or has been in communication 731 00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:21,159 with somebody that's very solid like the 732 00:32:27,479 --> 00:32:24,220 beautiful Nordics that billy meier was 733 00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:27,489 in contact with or a damn ski or those 734 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:31,840 type of alien contact and I or angels 735 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:34,090 even or demons you know whatever it 736 00:32:39,149 --> 00:32:35,769 maybe that's what I think of an 737 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:39,159 experiencer but when I got indoctrinated 738 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:43,090 into this on on like all the short stick 739 00:32:49,469 --> 00:32:45,369 because it happened to me like in 40 to 740 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:49,479 48 hours I was at a conference and then 741 00:32:54,629 --> 00:32:51,970 all hell broke loose because I became 742 00:32:56,219 --> 00:32:54,639 involved with the super soldiers and if 743 00:33:00,719 --> 00:32:56,229 you don't know what a super soldier is 744 00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:00,729 it's one of the definitions of it a 745 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:02,740 military all 746 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:06,100 third person who is being altered 747 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:09,160 physically and mentally to be doing the 748 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:11,800 bidding of the black ops people that run 749 00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:14,410 the the military black ops of divisions 750 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:16,300 now don't ask me who they are where 751 00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:17,590 they're coming from or what they're 752 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:20,440 doing but that's supposedly what it the 753 00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:23,230 definition is I said I have heard a 754 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:25,480 little bit about that it made it makes 755 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:28,990 me think of very human-looking in droids 756 00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:32,650 in the movies exactly and you know back 757 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:35,590 in the 70s I'd say late 60s early 70s 758 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:39,340 they were actually messing with putting 759 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,090 metal in guys bodies that you know I 760 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:45,760 hate to say this did Vietnam was an 761 00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:49,390 amazing place for making cyborg military 762 00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:51,190 what people don't understand about 763 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:54,309 Vietnam is even korea i think they 764 00:33:58,350 --> 00:33:56,590 started in Korea but I think Vietnam is 765 00:34:00,660 --> 00:33:58,360 where they started trying to really do 766 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:00,670 it on a full scale level is they were 767 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:02,650 men attacking these guys out to these 768 00:34:08,849 --> 00:34:05,250 special ships that people thought were 769 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:08,859 hospital ships and down in from what 770 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:11,649 I've heard from clandestine people in 771 00:34:16,859 --> 00:34:14,560 low places as I say is that they had 772 00:34:19,379 --> 00:34:16,869 these extraordinary labs where they were 773 00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:19,389 working on trying to like if someone 774 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:22,560 gets a leg blown off trying to build a 775 00:34:27,389 --> 00:34:25,330 prosthesis that was actually part of 776 00:34:29,790 --> 00:34:27,399 their body instead of an external one 777 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:29,800 like the Six Million Dollar Man which 778 00:34:36,659 --> 00:34:33,820 today exactly exactly so that well there 779 00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,669 is some truth because i actually did 780 00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:38,800 research at NIH as part of my first 781 00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:42,190 masters that is along these lines now 782 00:34:45,629 --> 00:34:44,260 hopefully no one gonna show up I don't I 783 00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:45,639 mean hopefully I was going to show up 784 00:34:50,909 --> 00:34:48,580 and kill me tomorrow but my my mentor 785 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:50,919 the awateh depart here's what the 786 00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:53,050 department defense went wanted they 787 00:34:57,570 --> 00:34:56,080 wanted to drugs you would give a drug to 788 00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:57,580 these soldiers when you loaded them on 789 00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:00,400 planes when they would be unconscious 790 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:03,700 for up to 48 hours then when they got to 791 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:06,280 their destination and went into battle 792 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:09,040 they got a second drug and they would be 793 00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:12,310 fully battle ready and able to perform 794 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:15,440 other duties for 48 hours now 795 00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:17,000 I was involved in that research for 796 00:35:22,329 --> 00:35:19,369 about a year on I don't know if it was 797 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:22,339 successful but I was actually doing it 798 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:24,680 so I know that a little piece of that I 799 00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:26,089 mean that's kind of a super-soldier 800 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:29,359 concept is exactly so I actually did 801 00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:33,710 some of them so much fault in the end of 802 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:36,680 mind control process well i was i was 803 00:35:42,099 --> 00:35:39,890 involved in helping what what you have 804 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:42,109 to do with drugs like this is is not 805 00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:45,290 kill people exactly oh i was doing the 806 00:35:51,099 --> 00:35:47,390 lift i was doing the lethality studies 807 00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:51,109 with mice in other words what was we 808 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:53,180 were trying to find the ld50 which is 809 00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:55,490 little lethal dose for fifty percent of 810 00:36:00,880 --> 00:35:57,800 the population so I keep giving a 811 00:36:02,859 --> 00:36:00,890 hundred mice higher and higher doses 812 00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:02,869 until 50 died and which is a Hannibal 813 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:04,839 lover I didn't enjoy but nonetheless 814 00:36:09,970 --> 00:36:08,480 well and that was just a little piece 815 00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:09,980 that someone like me was allowed to be 816 00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:12,140 involved was so yeah I have no problem 817 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:14,420 believing that yeah and you know it's 818 00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:17,089 I'm glad you said that because what 819 00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:18,470 people don't understand is how 820 00:36:24,490 --> 00:36:21,260 compartmentalized all their research has 821 00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:24,500 been over the years Roger Duncan dr. 822 00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:26,420 Robert Duncan did the whole piece on 823 00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:28,700 Hydra dining in other words matching the 824 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:30,980 frequencies of brainwave patterns to a 825 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:34,310 machine and that was his job he didn't 826 00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:36,650 realize until years later that they 827 00:36:41,319 --> 00:36:39,740 actually used his product as they say 828 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:41,329 quote unquote when he was doing this 829 00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:42,710 contract for the department of defense 830 00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:46,280 to do what people call voice to skull 831 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:48,440 communication which is where they're 832 00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:50,680 actually going into people's minds and 833 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:53,020 talking to them and they can hear them 834 00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,930 sure so you know it done with rats 835 00:37:02,770 --> 00:36:59,119 recently they've shown well exactly 836 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:02,780 right brain communication exactly had 837 00:37:06,819 --> 00:37:04,790 membered you by the way bird that the 838 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,829 study where they took the rat brain and 839 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:08,960 they grew the brain cells and then just 840 00:37:13,359 --> 00:37:11,210 train the brain cells to fly a flight 841 00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:13,369 simulator I talked about that on the 842 00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:16,190 show and by the way there is no show 843 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:17,750 next week so it doesn't mean that they 844 00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,710 actually did come and kill me cuz I 845 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:23,119 could just imagine next with you they 846 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:25,609 say oh my god they really did where's 847 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:27,330 Eric where's Eric 848 00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:32,010 I could say sir I'm very happy to hear 849 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:34,830 that you understand what I'm talking 850 00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:36,660 about because ninety percent of the 851 00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:39,180 people I deal with just think I'm full 852 00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:41,220 of you know what and I've done my 853 00:37:45,740 --> 00:37:43,470 research too and I know that MK ULTRA is 854 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:45,750 real I know that they've entrain 855 00:37:51,350 --> 00:37:47,970 people's brains through these studies 856 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:51,360 and colleges I have several friends very 857 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,730 good friends that were used in college 858 00:38:00,290 --> 00:37:55,680 studies that don't remember years of 859 00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:00,300 their life oh my gosh yeah very credible 860 00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,750 and I certainly saw I won't say what 861 00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:05,400 building I mean there were things I saw 862 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:06,990 that if I said and they heard about it 863 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:08,340 they wouldn't kill me but I would get in 864 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:11,850 trouble but yeah I saw things that that 865 00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:13,890 make all this very credible let me put 866 00:38:19,610 --> 00:38:17,190 it that way yes exactly and I've done my 867 00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:19,620 research and I know it's absolutely real 868 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:21,990 folks so you know the the the hard part 869 00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:24,420 is is when you do realize that they've 870 00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:26,820 got all this clandestine black ops stuff 871 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:29,670 going on that the cocaine and the drug 872 00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:33,090 running and the the poppies in 873 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:35,220 Afghanistan that we're protecting are 874 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:39,390 paying for all of it yes that's a hard 875 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:42,330 reality to swallow and and our 876 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:44,040 governments complicit with it they know 877 00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:45,960 what's going on how was something else 878 00:38:50,570 --> 00:38:48,030 that the ideas was very interested in 879 00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:50,580 the earlies in the early 80s was a 880 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:52,710 thorough 80s I don't know I'm getting 881 00:38:59,180 --> 00:38:56,370 sold that they were very interested in 882 00:39:01,970 --> 00:38:59,190 cocaine I never doing helping I won't 883 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:01,980 give his name dr. Blanc I was helping 884 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:04,890 him with some stuff with cocaine we were 885 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,200 giving the animals wow that's very 886 00:39:12,860 --> 00:39:10,320 interesting and and peptides introduced 887 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:12,870 directly into the brains of monkeys that 888 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:14,730 had the top part of the brain removed 889 00:39:18,980 --> 00:39:17,130 replaced with the plastic hemisphere of 890 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:18,990 a skull and a can you know where you 891 00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:21,450 could introduce these um these peptides 892 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:25,500 oh god yeah whatever but she hasn't up 893 00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:28,290 to you he's so what happened today but 894 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:31,470 you want my story to of my story it's 895 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:33,510 like Oh analyze me wonder why though 896 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:35,640 army are fascinated I just want to 897 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:37,080 listen go ahead well here's what 898 00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:38,730 happened and I'm gonna do this as 899 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:40,020 quickly as possible because it usually 900 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:41,110 takes about an 901 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:42,430 where to go through it all but I'm gonna 902 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:45,820 try to shorten it um it was September I 903 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,610 have to go back to me because this is 904 00:39:54,990 --> 00:39:50,560 what really is important for people to 905 00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:55,000 understand may of 2011 I had just come 906 00:40:01,890 --> 00:39:58,960 out of six months of being very ill for 907 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:01,900 14 days in the hospital in 2010 in 908 00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:06,550 August and almost died and then it took 909 00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,350 me three months to recover I lost my 910 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:10,240 business everything went to heck in a 911 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:13,510 hand basket as they say and I decided 912 00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:16,450 that I was gonna go do what I love which 913 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:18,700 was the psychic realm the phenomenon 914 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:20,950 UFOs aliens I listened Art Bell 915 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:22,690 religiously so I thought you know what 916 00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:24,610 I'll start representing those people 917 00:40:28,410 --> 00:40:25,870 because what I've been doing for years 918 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:28,420 and years before that was I was 919 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:30,460 representing keynote speakers and 920 00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,010 authors of you know best-selling or 921 00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:35,920 leadership type of selling books within 922 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:39,160 corporations and people that did 923 00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:41,620 training in major corporations I would 924 00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:44,380 book their workshops for them and I did 925 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:47,190 all kinds of this stuff as I was 926 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:50,770 motivation yeah motivational speakers 927 00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:54,670 and and keynote speakers for like major 928 00:41:00,720 --> 00:40:58,030 conferences so I I knew the business 929 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:00,730 really well I also at the same time was 930 00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:03,130 a non-profit director in the arts and I 931 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:05,560 had my own dance company and I was also 932 00:41:11,490 --> 00:41:08,050 producing a big dance and music festival 933 00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:11,500 in san francisco so I knew how to put on 934 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:13,300 a conference so I thought you know what 935 00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:14,770 I'll do is I'll start putting on 936 00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:16,950 conferences in the UFO community and 937 00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:19,840 I'll start managing the people that are 938 00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:22,540 on our bail why not it's an area i love 939 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:24,910 i like that kind of thing and gosh i 940 00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:28,630 wish i'd never thought of it now I look 941 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:30,460 back at it like oh my god what was I 942 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:33,370 thinking but anyhow so I'm driving down 943 00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:35,890 to a conference in oh no it's may of 944 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:38,920 2011 I got a hold of one of the women I 945 00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:41,800 heard on Kerry Cassidy show her radio 946 00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:44,020 show her name was a Solarian uber alles 947 00:41:48,210 --> 00:41:46,660 and she was amazing and she said one 948 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:48,220 thing while she was being interviewed by 949 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:50,080 Kerry that really struck me and I 950 00:41:53,609 --> 00:41:52,030 thought boys she needs a manager I'm 951 00:41:57,809 --> 00:41:53,619 going to grab her right away 952 00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,819 and promote her and she said that the 953 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:00,640 greys had taken our DNA and put an 954 00:42:06,569 --> 00:42:03,970 energetic lock on them and I thought to 955 00:42:08,759 --> 00:42:06,579 myself oh my god that makes sense that 956 00:42:11,309 --> 00:42:08,769 makes total sense why you know that is 957 00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:11,319 if he's talking about it what was that 958 00:42:18,839 --> 00:42:14,670 what is an energetic lock I'm not sure 959 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:18,849 okay no is it resonated with me very 960 00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:21,910 strongly like there is something to her 961 00:42:26,819 --> 00:42:24,700 theory okay and when they say an 962 00:42:29,249 --> 00:42:26,829 energetic lot now you know five years 963 00:42:32,249 --> 00:42:29,259 later six years later I'm going Oh 964 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:32,259 probably a frequency because we all run 965 00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,410 frequencies through our body and another 966 00:42:38,549 --> 00:42:37,119 thing that's happened to me since then 967 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:38,559 is I have a good friend named Peter 968 00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:42,249 clang who absolutely swears that our DNA 969 00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:45,940 was circular before they messed with us 970 00:42:51,779 --> 00:42:48,309 whoever they are that engineered us to 971 00:42:55,410 --> 00:42:51,789 die they said if our DNA was circular we 972 00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:55,420 continually replicate the telomeres we 973 00:43:00,690 --> 00:42:57,730 can continually all right tell about 974 00:43:02,729 --> 00:43:00,700 yeah yeah well there are some animals 975 00:43:04,829 --> 00:43:02,739 that don't that there are there's it 976 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:04,839 wears one turtle Utley just in one 977 00:43:09,059 --> 00:43:06,730 jellyfish is immortal unless you kill it 978 00:43:12,299 --> 00:43:09,069 because their telomerase doesn't get 979 00:43:13,859 --> 00:43:12,309 sure every time we make a copy or kelp 980 00:43:16,829 --> 00:43:13,869 the telomerase a little piece on the end 981 00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:16,839 gets a little tattered and eventually 982 00:43:20,609 --> 00:43:18,609 you can't make any more good copies but 983 00:43:22,859 --> 00:43:20,619 for these Turtles and this jellyfish 984 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,869 that doesn't happen so they are 985 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:24,880 technically immoral so they were saying 986 00:43:32,549 --> 00:43:30,430 that we started out like that well kind 987 00:43:34,410 --> 00:43:32,559 of I mean this is you know five years 988 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,420 later and talking to lots and lots of 989 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:36,400 people about it but I just I thought it 990 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:38,140 was very interesting that she said that 991 00:43:42,210 --> 00:43:40,420 at the time because I thought wow that's 992 00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:42,220 intriguing because I've always wondered 993 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:46,900 how our DNA doesn't can continually keep 994 00:43:50,009 --> 00:43:48,430 replicating and then when I talk to 995 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:50,019 Peter years later and he said oh was 996 00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:52,960 circular and they snipped it in half and 997 00:43:57,390 --> 00:43:55,569 that's why we die and I thought oh that 998 00:44:00,539 --> 00:43:57,400 makes a lot of sense to I mean you know 999 00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,549 anyhow so anyhow his back its 2011 I'm 1000 00:44:03,809 --> 00:44:02,319 listening to her I think oh my god she's 1001 00:44:06,269 --> 00:44:03,819 got some interesting information I'm 1002 00:44:07,259 --> 00:44:06,279 going to call her so a couple weeks went 1003 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:07,269 by finally got a 1004 00:44:10,859 --> 00:44:09,249 lover and we talked for a little bit and 1005 00:44:13,409 --> 00:44:10,869 I hung up I saw call you in a few weeks 1006 00:44:15,659 --> 00:44:13,419 and we were talking about me managing 1007 00:44:17,999 --> 00:44:15,669 her and everything was fine the second 1008 00:44:19,229 --> 00:44:18,009 time I called her and this is really 1009 00:44:21,539 --> 00:44:19,239 important folks you've got to pay 1010 00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:21,549 attention to this I'm sitting here 1011 00:44:25,289 --> 00:44:23,169 talking to her on the phone right where 1012 00:44:28,499 --> 00:44:25,299 I'm sitting right now on the phone and I 1013 00:44:30,539 --> 00:44:28,509 hear a helicopter over the house very 1014 00:44:33,299 --> 00:44:30,549 low it's so low it's almost shaking the 1015 00:44:34,739 --> 00:44:33,309 house and it is loud as heck and I'm 1016 00:44:36,959 --> 00:44:34,749 talking to her on the phone and I go do 1017 00:44:38,969 --> 00:44:36,969 you hear this she goes yeah and i said 1018 00:44:40,919 --> 00:44:38,979 my god i never heard it come to the 1019 00:44:43,919 --> 00:44:40,929 house i realized that in the moment I 1020 00:44:46,169 --> 00:44:43,929 went oh my god it just appeared and I 1021 00:44:48,029 --> 00:44:46,179 was freaking out i sent my roommate out 1022 00:44:50,429 --> 00:44:48,039 to look at it and he came back in he 1023 00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:50,439 goes god it's almost it's so dark black 1024 00:44:53,999 --> 00:44:52,449 it's all you but it's green he goes it's 1025 00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:54,009 got a little green hint to when the Sun 1026 00:44:58,439 --> 00:44:56,529 hits it and there's two guys one on the 1027 00:45:00,120 --> 00:44:58,449 side window with a bubble helmet on 1028 00:45:02,249 --> 00:45:00,130 completely covered you can't see his 1029 00:45:04,049 --> 00:45:02,259 face and the other guy driving it and 1030 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,059 he's got a bubble helmet I can't see his 1031 00:45:08,759 --> 00:45:06,880 face I went okay interesting I go they 1032 00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:08,769 were that low he goes he had their only 1033 00:45:13,499 --> 00:45:11,169 about a hundred feet over that oh my god 1034 00:45:16,259 --> 00:45:13,509 anyhow I'm trying to talk to her this 1035 00:45:19,739 --> 00:45:16,269 thing is so loud I'm I'm having to yell 1036 00:45:21,899 --> 00:45:19,749 and think so and she's like oh I can 1037 00:45:24,479 --> 00:45:21,909 hear it I can hear and I go yeah and 1038 00:45:26,339 --> 00:45:24,489 then finally after about a minute of 1039 00:45:29,129 --> 00:45:26,349 circling the house maybe a little longer 1040 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:29,139 it slowly takes off over the water and 1041 00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:32,249 disappears and this wasn't your typical 1042 00:45:37,469 --> 00:45:35,649 State Police no that's it believe me I 1043 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:37,479 know everything about what goes on 1044 00:45:41,909 --> 00:45:39,729 around my neighbor that in your 25 years 1045 00:45:43,769 --> 00:45:41,919 and we have a helicopter that goes over 1046 00:45:46,289 --> 00:45:43,779 the flight path of the highway right 1047 00:45:47,759 --> 00:45:46,299 next to me that's a traffic helicopter 1048 00:45:50,009 --> 00:45:47,769 and I know exactly what it sounds like 1049 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:50,019 and now then believe me I never seen 1050 00:45:54,569 --> 00:45:51,880 anything like this before okay why it 1051 00:45:58,199 --> 00:45:54,579 was over our house doing the circle 1052 00:46:02,149 --> 00:45:58,209 nose-down was very interesting too and 1053 00:46:04,439 --> 00:46:02,159 they out yeah it was really bizarre so I 1054 00:46:07,169 --> 00:46:04,449 just I kind of put it on my head I 1055 00:46:08,819 --> 00:46:07,179 thought well whatever you know and but 1056 00:46:11,819 --> 00:46:08,829 what bothered me was said I never heard 1057 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:11,829 it coming there then later well okay 1058 00:46:18,989 --> 00:46:16,089 anyhow so it's now sep tember ace ilaria 1059 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:18,999 is meeting me in Los Angeles I'm driving 1060 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:20,649 down for a conference it's called the 1061 00:46:22,890 --> 00:46:21,070 awakened 1062 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:22,900 we're conference with Kerry Cassidy and 1063 00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:25,810 I was going down to represent six people 1064 00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:28,720 that I had picked up as potential you 1065 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:31,750 know management people and a Solari was 1066 00:46:36,540 --> 00:46:33,850 one of them joann richards was another 1067 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:36,550 and i was bringing them to attention to 1068 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:39,370 bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy and I bought 1069 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,930 a table at the conference and I was 1070 00:46:44,490 --> 00:46:42,880 sitting out in the lobby with you know 1071 00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:44,500 representing all these people and 1072 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:46,300 getting people to go to their websites 1073 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:49,450 and you know figure out who they were so 1074 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:51,360 I'm down there it's Friday night I 1075 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:54,130 Solaria meets me and we go into the 1076 00:46:59,760 --> 00:46:56,530 conference and Duncan affinion and 1077 00:47:00,930 --> 00:46:59,770 Miranda who is his girlfriend I don't 1078 00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:00,940 know she still his girlfriend but 1079 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:02,620 whatever Duncan affinia is the first 1080 00:47:06,210 --> 00:47:04,600 super soldier to ever come out into the 1081 00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:06,220 public on the Art Bell show and talk 1082 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,520 about his experience and he's on mon 1083 00:47:14,340 --> 00:47:11,440 stage with his girlfriend and they start 1084 00:47:16,170 --> 00:47:14,350 talking and there's about 4 400 people 1085 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:16,180 in the room it's a free night so it's 1086 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,790 just jam-packed with people and I'm 1087 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:20,800 sitting there next day Solaria and and 1088 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:24,850 acts Miranda says to the audience yes 1089 00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:26,890 I've heard the screaming in the back of 1090 00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:31,200 my head I'm like my god oh my god and 1091 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:33,910 Eric I just about fell off my chair I 1092 00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:36,010 started looking around the room because 1093 00:47:41,850 --> 00:47:38,590 it brought back the memory of me when I 1094 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:41,860 was trying to meditate in my 20s that I 1095 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:44,110 used to go to this place in my head 1096 00:47:48,810 --> 00:47:46,090 where it was nothing but a woman 1097 00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:48,820 screaming and I thought to myself oh my 1098 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:51,940 god what is this so i was in therapy in 1099 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:54,010 my 20s I made myself good therapy for 1100 00:47:58,170 --> 00:47:56,170 years because I can't tell me myself oh 1101 00:48:00,750 --> 00:47:58,180 my god I don't want to end up like my 1102 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:00,760 parents right I don't want to be them so 1103 00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:02,530 I thought therapy be the best way to 1104 00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,910 deal with it so I did I would the 1105 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:05,760 therapy off and on for like 12 years 1106 00:48:12,090 --> 00:48:09,850 actually I want that but anyhow during 1107 00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:12,100 one of my therapy sessions I had told 1108 00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:13,720 the therapist I said yeah I'm meditating 1109 00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:15,910 and I'm hearing somebody screaming in my 1110 00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:19,270 head and she goes oh that's well you 1111 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:20,860 told me about the time you were 18 1112 00:48:24,270 --> 00:48:22,510 months old and you ate the rat poisoning 1113 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:24,280 he almost died and you were in the 1114 00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,250 hospital and they had sand bags on you 1115 00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:29,440 and and you probably were screaming a 1116 00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:32,470 lot then I are crying a lot and I said 1117 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:34,560 go she thought I was a refreshing 1118 00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,510 memory exactly she thought was a 1119 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:38,400 repressed memory so I'm thinking okay 1120 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:40,500 that's fine so I accepted it is that I 1121 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:42,090 mean why am I gonna sit there and argue 1122 00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:43,680 with her right you know I thought she 1123 00:48:49,370 --> 00:48:46,200 knew what you to do it and she did she's 1124 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:49,380 wonderful therapist but anyhow um so I 1125 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:50,970 didn't think about it for years and 1126 00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:53,250 years now every once in a while is I was 1127 00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:56,280 falling asleep or waking up I would hear 1128 00:49:01,460 --> 00:48:58,740 something a scream you know is that 1129 00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:01,470 screaming again but very soft and I knew 1130 00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:02,910 it was always in the back of my head 1131 00:49:08,420 --> 00:49:05,820 somewhere my subconscious right what I 1132 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:08,430 never call girly voice screaming yeah 1133 00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:09,930 okay so this is where it gets 1134 00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:12,990 interesting so I'm now it's I'm 53 years 1135 00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,510 old i'm at this conference and she said 1136 00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:17,520 that and it just it's like someone hit 1137 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:20,520 me in the chest I was like oh my god and 1138 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,250 I thought no no it can't be I can't be 1139 00:49:26,570 --> 00:49:24,960 involved with these people there's no 1140 00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:26,580 way in heck I'm involved with these 1141 00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:29,640 people right and now let me preface this 1142 00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:32,070 with the whole way driving down to the 1143 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:34,110 conference I'm thinking to myself I'm 1144 00:49:38,810 --> 00:49:36,450 putting at this point I'm now committed 1145 00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:38,820 to put on UFO con 2012 I've already 1146 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:40,230 committed and we're already starting the 1147 00:49:45,380 --> 00:49:42,690 process right so I'm doing my first UFO 1148 00:49:47,060 --> 00:49:45,390 conference and I'm thinking to myself my 1149 00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:47,070 god Duncan's going to be there and all 1150 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:48,750 these people I've never seen him before 1151 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:50,610 I wonder what they're like you know I'm 1152 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:51,930 thinking oh this is great I've wonder 1153 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:53,730 why no one's ever put on a conference 1154 00:49:58,010 --> 00:49:55,770 for them this is what I'm thinking long 1155 00:49:59,600 --> 00:49:58,020 drive ins I thought you know what I 1156 00:50:00,980 --> 00:49:59,610 should explore that I should put on a 1157 00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:00,990 conference without put him the first 1158 00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:04,470 Super Soldier come for like an idiot I 1159 00:50:10,070 --> 00:50:06,540 look back on that now to go food was 1160 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:10,080 controlling me then so anyhow so this is 1161 00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:11,850 in the back of my mind as I get down 1162 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:14,040 there and then it's Friday night I hear 1163 00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:15,930 the screaming statement I'm like oh my 1164 00:50:19,340 --> 00:50:17,880 god and I'm looking around the room to 1165 00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:19,350 see if anybody else is looking around 1166 00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:21,060 the room because I wanted to know if I 1167 00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:25,430 was really having this issue right so 1168 00:50:31,220 --> 00:50:29,040 I'm freaking out the the talk ends and 1169 00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:31,230 I'm thinking to myself oh my god this is 1170 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:33,390 just so weird well I'm trying to forget 1171 00:50:37,610 --> 00:50:35,490 it's even happening a Solarian looks at 1172 00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:37,620 me and says Duncan and Miranda know 1173 00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:39,270 something I've got to talk to them 1174 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:40,590 they're gonna have the answer I'm 1175 00:50:43,850 --> 00:50:42,210 looking for and I looked at her and I 1176 00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:43,860 said I don't want to talk to them and 1177 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:45,750 she goes oh come on you want to talk to 1178 00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:47,609 them i said no i don't 1179 00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:50,319 if she goes let's go talk to him I said 1180 00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:52,059 no I don't want to talk to him tonight I 1181 00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,190 so let's talk to him tomorrow night so 1182 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,319 she said okay fine and it was the end of 1183 00:50:59,640 --> 00:50:58,000 the evening anyhow so we laughed and 1184 00:51:01,650 --> 00:50:59,650 went back to the house we were staying 1185 00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:01,660 at we were staying at an Airbnb house by 1186 00:51:06,809 --> 00:51:03,849 the way H I love air B&B I so everybody 1187 00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:06,819 to know that and uh the next day we go 1188 00:51:11,999 --> 00:51:08,710 back and I'm trying to forget everything 1189 00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:12,009 that's happened and already I'm thinking 1190 00:51:17,249 --> 00:51:14,049 well okay I'll talk to them at some 1191 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:17,259 point but I saw Aaron McCullum their air 1192 00:51:21,539 --> 00:51:19,450 McCullum is also a super soldiers that 1193 00:51:23,309 --> 00:51:21,549 came out that Duncan affinion absolutely 1194 00:51:25,019 --> 00:51:23,319 does not like and he doesn't like Duncan 1195 00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:25,029 and there's lots of bad blood between 1196 00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:27,400 them but I didn't know it at the time so 1197 00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:29,500 I walk up to Aaron and I said Aaron I'm 1198 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:31,480 thinking about putting on a super 1199 00:51:35,099 --> 00:51:33,250 soldier conference the first one ever 1200 00:51:37,529 --> 00:51:35,109 and he goes oh that's wonderful i said 1201 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:37,539 would you be able I said oh first of all 1202 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:39,609 I said why aren't you speaking at this 1203 00:51:43,019 --> 00:51:41,170 conference he goes cuz so good and I 1204 00:51:45,210 --> 00:51:43,029 don't get along and I can't be on the 1205 00:51:47,249 --> 00:51:45,220 same stage with them and I said oh is 1206 00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:47,259 that his demand or yours he goes well it 1207 00:51:51,809 --> 00:51:50,079 was his to carry so I'm you know I'm 1208 00:51:53,849 --> 00:51:51,819 acknowledging all that myself that's 1209 00:51:56,099 --> 00:51:53,859 fine i said but if i put on a conference 1210 00:51:58,859 --> 00:51:56,109 would you be able to be on the same 1211 00:52:00,990 --> 00:51:58,869 stage with him without any problems he 1212 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:01,000 was probably not i go how about the same 1213 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,410 conference could you speak at a 1214 00:52:07,769 --> 00:52:04,720 different time and he said sure no 1215 00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:07,779 problem and I said you were in charge 1216 00:52:14,130 --> 00:52:12,609 you could do it I yes exactly so and 1217 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:14,140 yeah I tell you what say what let's 1218 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:17,170 let's hold everyone in suspense and work 1219 00:52:21,269 --> 00:52:18,730 because we're gonna we're gonna go to a 1220 00:52:23,339 --> 00:52:21,279 break okay all right when we come back 1221 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:23,349 from the break Loreen will tell us how 1222 00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:25,900 this turned out so we'll be back in just 1223 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:28,839 uh just a couple minutes folks hello 1224 00:52:33,299 --> 00:52:31,210 folks were back and I forgot to go poof 1225 00:52:36,829 --> 00:52:33,309 so I was actually here the whole time I 1226 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:36,839 did not disappear into a big ball of a 1227 00:52:42,930 --> 00:52:40,450 baby powder dust maybe you were able to 1228 00:52:44,339 --> 00:52:42,940 see me during the break anyway lorien is 1229 00:52:46,799 --> 00:52:44,349 in the middle of a really fascinating 1230 00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,809 story I'm just gonna just gonna throw it 1231 00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:48,160 right back to her and let her take 1232 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:50,710 something Eric I really appreciate that 1233 00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,170 and I just try to remember where I was i 1234 00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:55,119 think i just talked to aaron McCullen 1235 00:52:59,490 --> 00:52:57,250 about doing a super soldier conference 1236 00:53:01,319 --> 00:52:59,500 and and I was thinking about it but I 1237 00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:01,329 still was having trepidation 1238 00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,049 about talking to Duncan and Miranda and 1239 00:53:11,249 --> 00:53:07,119 it's saturday afternoon at the 1240 00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:11,259 conference and I decide that night that 1241 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:13,150 I just didn't really want to talk to 1242 00:53:18,329 --> 00:53:16,180 Duncan and Miranda until sunday i had 1243 00:53:21,539 --> 00:53:18,339 just decided that I don't know why I did 1244 00:53:23,009 --> 00:53:21,549 and a Solarius said to me oh I really 1245 00:53:24,269 --> 00:53:23,019 want to talk to him she kept bugging me 1246 00:53:25,380 --> 00:53:24,279 and bugging me i said no we're not going 1247 00:53:27,870 --> 00:53:25,390 to talk to him today we're going to talk 1248 00:53:30,959 --> 00:53:27,880 to him tomorrow and i said let's go so I 1249 00:53:33,089 --> 00:53:30,969 took us out the back door of the of the 1250 00:53:35,069 --> 00:53:33,099 conference center around the garbage 1251 00:53:37,949 --> 00:53:35,079 cans on the far side of the pool 1252 00:53:40,709 --> 00:53:37,959 thinking will not run into anybody on 1253 00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:40,719 our way out right but of course as we 1254 00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:42,700 turn the corner to head by the garbage 1255 00:53:47,249 --> 00:53:44,950 cans out the pool gate to the parking 1256 00:53:49,529 --> 00:53:47,259 lot standing at the garbage cans is 1257 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:49,539 Duncan to Miranda so I really had no 1258 00:53:53,849 --> 00:53:51,910 choice but to she goes running up to 1259 00:53:55,650 --> 00:53:53,859 Duncan and starts talking to him and 1260 00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:55,660 there they're engaged in conversation 1261 00:53:59,549 --> 00:53:57,940 and I said hi I'm Lori and then thinking 1262 00:54:00,900 --> 00:53:59,559 about putting on a conference for you 1263 00:54:02,819 --> 00:54:00,910 guys and he thought it was interesting 1264 00:54:06,059 --> 00:54:02,829 and then they started talking to miranda 1265 00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:06,069 and I were standing there speaking and i 1266 00:54:10,469 --> 00:54:09,190 said to her i said oh by the way we had 1267 00:54:12,539 --> 00:54:10,479 talked about a few things and i said oh 1268 00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:12,549 by the way what's with that screaming in 1269 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:16,209 your head and she goes why do you want 1270 00:54:21,329 --> 00:54:18,130 to know and I looked at her and I said 1271 00:54:23,279 --> 00:54:21,339 because I think I have it too and then 1272 00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:23,289 she said the most profound thing and I 1273 00:54:28,849 --> 00:54:25,209 thanked her to this day for saying it to 1274 00:54:32,849 --> 00:54:28,859 me she said maybe you don't want to know 1275 00:54:34,709 --> 00:54:32,859 why and I thought to myself shoot you 1276 00:54:36,449 --> 00:54:34,719 know everything went through my head in 1277 00:54:39,479 --> 00:54:36,459 that moment folks it was like it was 1278 00:54:41,849 --> 00:54:39,489 gave me permission not to worry about it 1279 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:41,859 it gave me permission not to find out 1280 00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,890 what it was from not to worry about it 1281 00:54:50,099 --> 00:54:47,680 and I realized in that moment whatever 1282 00:54:52,170 --> 00:54:50,109 it was it's either from my past or 1283 00:54:55,799 --> 00:54:52,180 non-existent and it's all in my 1284 00:54:58,259 --> 00:54:55,809 imagination or it's something very you 1285 00:55:00,449 --> 00:54:58,269 know solid and real but it's still in my 1286 00:55:03,299 --> 00:55:00,459 past so it has nothing to do with my 1287 00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:03,309 future or now and I can make my future 1288 00:55:06,479 --> 00:55:05,140 whatever I want it to be so all this is 1289 00:55:08,489 --> 00:55:06,489 going through my head now it's going 1290 00:55:11,370 --> 00:55:08,499 through my head and jumbles and pieces 1291 00:55:13,469 --> 00:55:11,380 and Wow Noah may be in kind it's like it 1292 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:13,479 you know it's an emotional response to 1293 00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:15,010 an answer instead 1294 00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:17,950 just like oh ok thanks right it was more 1295 00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:19,750 like whoa you know that had some 1296 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:21,550 profound meaning to me and I've got to 1297 00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:23,170 meditate on it for a while and make it 1298 00:55:27,870 --> 00:55:26,590 stick right so I you know we start 1299 00:55:31,170 --> 00:55:27,880 talking about something else at that 1300 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:31,180 point and I just kind of let it go and I 1301 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:33,550 went back to the car we drove back to 1302 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:36,640 the house and I got in in the bedroom 1303 00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:38,290 asa Lori and I say good night I got in 1304 00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:40,150 the bedroom it's like now about you know 1305 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:41,740 one o'clock in the morning and I'm 1306 00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:44,290 thinking to myself shoot I haven't 1307 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:46,630 checked my email today so I sat on the 1308 00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:48,370 bed at the house and there's a little 1309 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:50,830 trade table next to it and I'm popping 1310 00:55:56,850 --> 00:55:53,890 up in my laptop and just as I'm popping 1311 00:55:59,130 --> 00:55:56,860 it open I think to myself gee I wonder 1312 00:56:01,740 --> 00:55:59,140 if a solara remembers the day the 1313 00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:01,750 helicopter came over the house and I was 1314 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:03,220 thinking I had to talk to her about it 1315 00:56:08,730 --> 00:56:06,250 okay to remind her and just as I thought 1316 00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:08,740 at Eric in the instant I thought that 1317 00:56:14,130 --> 00:56:11,680 there was a helicopter over that house I 1318 00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:14,140 swear to God and it's loud as heck just 1319 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:16,420 like the last one and I never heard it 1320 00:56:21,390 --> 00:56:19,450 coming okay that's amazing okay now 1321 00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:21,400 here's where got really and this is when 1322 00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:23,830 I totally freaked because I'm thinking 1323 00:56:30,570 --> 00:56:27,520 to myself oh my god somebody's reading 1324 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:30,580 my mind that was my first thought and I 1325 00:56:34,740 --> 00:56:32,770 completely freaked out I didn't know 1326 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:34,750 what to do I went into a panic state I 1327 00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:37,210 went into shock I walked to the window 1328 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:40,120 to take a look at the helicopter now 1329 00:56:43,830 --> 00:56:41,890 this is where it gets reven weirder I 1330 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:43,840 look out the window and there is no 1331 00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:46,090 helicopter out there but there are three 1332 00:56:53,490 --> 00:56:50,020 orange glowing red lights in a triangle 1333 00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:53,500 formation up in the sky about I don't 1334 00:56:56,790 --> 00:56:55,120 know how high up they were all I can 1335 00:57:00,090 --> 00:56:56,800 tell you is that from a thumbnails 1336 00:57:02,130 --> 00:57:00,100 distance they were you could see the 1337 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:02,140 three the line you know the outline of 1338 00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:04,570 the three lights about the size of my 1339 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:07,270 thumb do you think three things or one 1340 00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:10,330 thing was I don't know I still just a 1341 00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,060 don't know because i'll never know they 1342 00:57:18,690 --> 00:57:16,000 did but frankly in my heart i think it 1343 00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:18,700 was a triangle UFO because I've seen 1344 00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:22,150 pictures of the same type of lights from 1345 00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:24,580 the bottom in pictures that people have 1346 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:26,950 captured of UFOs and I've seen the 1347 00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:28,810 pictures that are drawings 1348 00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:32,620 triangle ones exactly so anyhow I'm 1349 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:34,630 sitting there I'm not sitting there I'm 1350 00:57:37,740 --> 00:57:36,190 standing there looking out the window 1351 00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:37,750 and I'm just freaking out because 1352 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:39,790 there's no helicopter there's three 1353 00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:42,010 orange balls they look like the color of 1354 00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:44,710 embers in a fire a deep kind of red but 1355 00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:47,110 you know glowing and I'm thinking to 1356 00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:49,980 myself what is going on here and I just 1357 00:57:58,110 --> 00:57:52,960 didn't know how to handle it mentally so 1358 00:58:01,830 --> 00:57:58,120 I said I'm going to bed it went asleep I 1359 00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:01,840 woke up the baby I'm sorry what was that 1360 00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:03,430 you're breaking up I would have I would 1361 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:06,430 have gone in the basement oh there was 1362 00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:08,110 no basement there is nowhere to go I 1363 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,940 mean I was just like this is it i'm in a 1364 00:58:15,150 --> 00:58:12,160 house I don't you know I'm in some guys 1365 00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:15,160 house and airbnb house and but I'm like 1366 00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:16,960 well you know whatever i'm going to 1367 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:19,390 sleep so i did and i get up the next day 1368 00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:22,090 and i talked to everybody in the house i 1369 00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:24,160 go guy did you hear that helicopter last 1370 00:58:28,410 --> 00:58:26,740 night and then I realized not nobody 1371 00:58:30,330 --> 00:58:28,420 heard it and there were a few other 1372 00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:30,340 people awake because they've just gone 1373 00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:31,750 to their bedrooms I mean it wasn't like 1374 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,390 it was like maybe three minutes they 1375 00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:36,640 couldn't have been asleep and I'm 1376 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:40,390 thinking this is so bizarre so then I 1377 00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:43,210 realized that morning that they had put 1378 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:48,190 the sound in my head Oh how's that for 1379 00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:49,930 you know cuz not a person heard it but 1380 00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:52,180 it was so loud to me that the house is 1381 00:58:56,190 --> 00:58:54,760 almost shaking again you know that type 1382 00:58:58,020 --> 00:58:56,200 of loud and I thought the whole 1383 00:59:01,020 --> 00:58:58,030 neighborhood would be waking up you know 1384 00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:01,030 I the whole bit right nothing and it's 1385 00:59:04,740 --> 00:59:03,070 the middle of the night well I could 1386 00:59:07,220 --> 00:59:04,750 have put the sound in your head or they 1387 00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:07,230 could have or they could have simply 1388 00:59:11,850 --> 00:59:09,940 attenuated the other people so they 1389 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:11,860 couldn't they could have yeah that's 1390 00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:13,210 another thought I hadn't thought of that 1391 00:59:18,810 --> 00:59:15,670 darn another thing to throw into the mix 1392 00:59:20,850 --> 00:59:18,820 so anyhow um we go back to the 1393 00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:20,860 conference and I'm now I'm kind of like 1394 00:59:25,140 --> 00:59:22,900 what is going on this weekend is already 1395 00:59:26,970 --> 00:59:25,150 turning into craziness with them Miranda 1396 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:26,980 in the screaming now the helicopter 1397 00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:30,850 again and I'm at in this conference by 1398 00:59:36,330 --> 00:59:32,620 the way folks was the weirdest 1399 00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:36,340 conference I've ever been to the energy 1400 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:38,830 there was so thick you could cut it with 1401 00:59:42,450 --> 00:59:41,530 a knife and everybody had a headache and 1402 00:59:43,859 --> 00:59:42,460 Carrie 1403 00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:43,869 Cassidy looked like she was under 1404 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:47,080 complete mind control people were 1405 00:59:50,130 --> 00:59:48,730 walking off stage because they were 1406 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,140 fighting with each other it was the 1407 00:59:55,290 --> 00:59:51,760 weirdest conference I've ever been to 1408 00:59:57,599 --> 00:59:55,300 and we describe it as surreal very 1409 00:59:59,520 --> 00:59:57,609 surreal almost like I told friend what 1410 01:00:02,400 --> 00:59:59,530 later when I got home I felt like I was 1411 01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:02,410 in a Fellini movie there was a woman 1412 01:00:07,890 --> 01:00:05,560 there with piercing blue eyes and a wat 1413 01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:07,900 dog with piercing blue eyes that matched 1414 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:12,430 that had wild dyed hair and am I could 1415 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:14,170 have sworn she was an alien honest to 1416 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:18,730 god she drop your real alien that was 1417 01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:20,890 wild to there were all kinds of very 1418 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:22,990 crazy people that I could it could just 1419 01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:25,410 be people living in LA I don't know 1420 01:00:31,470 --> 01:00:29,200 people living in LA our group in 1421 01:00:34,290 --> 01:00:31,480 Northern California you know hippie type 1422 01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:34,300 people so it was very bizarre but I just 1423 01:00:38,730 --> 01:00:36,520 had the weirdest weekend so anyhow now 1424 01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:38,740 it's getting weirder now it's Sunday and 1425 01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:41,680 I decide I needed to talk to build Ryan 1426 01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:43,390 about two or three of the people I was 1427 01:00:47,010 --> 01:00:45,190 representing and carrying carried 1428 01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:47,020 already talked a Solarian and there you 1429 01:00:52,349 --> 01:00:49,990 know and I got joann richards introduced 1430 01:00:54,810 --> 01:00:52,359 to carry and there are lots of things 1431 01:00:56,550 --> 01:00:54,820 going on that weekend as far as me 1432 01:00:59,520 --> 01:00:56,560 promoting the people i was starting to 1433 01:01:02,280 --> 01:00:59,530 work for so I needed to talk to bill so 1434 01:01:05,010 --> 01:01:02,290 I walk up to Bill it's the afternoon for 1435 01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:05,020 about three or four hours left in the in 1436 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:06,910 the show that day or the conference that 1437 01:01:13,530 --> 01:01:08,890 day and bill is sitting in the front row 1438 01:01:15,450 --> 01:01:13,540 and he's sitting facing a kid I thought 1439 01:01:17,339 --> 01:01:15,460 it was a kid that was kneeling down in 1440 01:01:19,770 --> 01:01:17,349 front of him with his head down and they 1441 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:19,780 were both holding on to this cube and 1442 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:22,089 I'm thinking what is going on here but 1443 01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:24,010 it seems that they were meditating and 1444 01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:25,599 they were both holding onto the cube at 1445 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:26,830 the same time they were meditating 1446 01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:28,510 together he had his head down the kid 1447 01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:30,820 had his head down and they're meditating 1448 01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:33,940 so I started meditating with them and I 1449 01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:36,849 might as well meditating and did a 1450 01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:38,710 couple minutes later everybody raised 1451 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:40,150 her head and we all had a nice little 1452 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:42,790 meditation and I said to Bill I sit oh 1453 01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,490 the kid pops up and it's not a kid it's 1454 01:01:50,579 --> 01:01:47,200 a young man and he looks at me and he 1455 01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:50,589 says hi I'm James Ranck and I'm a super 1456 01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:52,089 soldier I heard you're putting on a 1457 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:55,030 super soldier conference and I said well 1458 01:01:58,260 --> 01:01:55,930 that's 1459 01:02:00,000 --> 01:01:58,270 me i said i thinkin about it because 1460 01:02:01,650 --> 01:02:00,010 well I'd like to talk to you about it 1461 01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,660 and I'd like to be there and I said well 1462 01:02:05,490 --> 01:02:03,520 tell you about meet me at my table in 1463 01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:05,500 about an hour after the next speaker 1464 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:07,300 whatever and he said I'll be there and I 1465 01:02:10,590 --> 01:02:08,890 said okay great so he takes his cube 1466 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:10,600 which was the NeoCube which I have 1467 01:02:14,910 --> 01:02:13,450 sitting on my desk now and he got Tatars 1468 01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:14,920 away and I talked to bill Ryan 1469 01:02:18,810 --> 01:02:16,840 everything's fine and then it's the end 1470 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:18,820 of the evening and I completely forgot 1471 01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:21,730 to go back to the table and meet up with 1472 01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:23,830 them and it's the end of the evening and 1473 01:02:26,820 --> 01:02:25,390 I'm sitting there an acyl Dora and I are 1474 01:02:29,820 --> 01:02:26,830 packing up it's about seven or eight 1475 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:29,830 o'clock at night and I hear his voice 1476 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:32,170 he's walked up to the table he's got I'm 1477 01:02:37,350 --> 01:02:34,090 kind of under the table pulling stuff 1478 01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:37,360 out and he's with somebody else and I 1479 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:39,670 kind of see them up above the table and 1480 01:02:44,310 --> 01:02:41,650 he's talking de salario that's James 1481 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:44,320 Ranck talking to Solaria and I look up 1482 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:46,240 and standing directly in front of me is 1483 01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:49,210 this guy in his name is Max beers and I 1484 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:50,680 don't know it at the time but I look up 1485 01:02:55,530 --> 01:02:53,290 and I look at him and I swear to god it 1486 01:02:57,390 --> 01:02:55,540 was like having the most severe deja vu 1487 01:02:59,970 --> 01:02:57,400 anybody could have in their entire life 1488 01:03:01,380 --> 01:02:59,980 I almost fell off the chair I looked at 1489 01:03:04,140 --> 01:03:01,390 him in the first words out of my mouth 1490 01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:04,150 where I know you and he looked at me and 1491 01:03:06,990 --> 01:03:05,200 he's kind of looking at me quizzically 1492 01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:07,000 and he says well I don't know you and I 1493 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:10,000 said oh that's okay I think it did 1494 01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:12,490 myself what is going on here because it 1495 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:14,800 was like profound it wasn't just like oh 1496 01:03:18,930 --> 01:03:16,570 you know I think I recognize the guy it 1497 01:03:20,850 --> 01:03:18,940 was like I knew him you know from 1498 01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:20,860 somewhere and I couldn't place it it was 1499 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:23,560 dried it was worth the kid he was with 1500 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:25,690 the the other kid turns out he is a 1501 01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:27,430 quote unquote super soldier as well I 1502 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:30,160 found out much later in our relationship 1503 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:33,250 which we've had a long we had occurred 1504 01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:36,130 to your very intense not relationship 1505 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:38,230 relationship but row talking to each 1506 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:41,170 other relationship and him being at my 1507 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:43,330 conferences that he's more of a 1508 01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:46,570 spiritual warrior than a super soldier 1509 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:50,070 but he has no one was the younger one oh 1510 01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:53,770 okay James Ranck was in his early 30s he 1511 01:03:58,020 --> 01:03:56,110 looks like a baby but he's oh okay when 1512 01:04:00,180 --> 01:03:58,030 you say good i was thinkin of ya i wasnt 1513 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:00,190 years old [\h__\h] too but you know he 1514 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:03,010 thought he was 18 or 19 turns out he was 1515 01:04:09,630 --> 01:04:06,130 in his early 30s and Max fears the guide 1516 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:09,640 that i recognized he was 33 1517 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:12,730 and he looked very he was very handsome 1518 01:04:18,569 --> 01:04:14,170 he didn't look young he's just very 1519 01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:18,579 handsome so um we decide the four of us 1520 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:20,049 decide we're going to go out I don't 1521 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:21,609 know where we ended up at the house 1522 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:23,440 having dinner together I think that's 1523 01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:25,450 yeah that's what we ended up we ended up 1524 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:28,480 there having dinner so ASA Loria was 1525 01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:31,690 quite a quite a lot speaking with James 1526 01:04:35,789 --> 01:04:33,640 Ranck about some certain things that 1527 01:04:37,859 --> 01:04:35,799 they were discussing and I was talking a 1528 01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:37,869 lot with Max and as Max and I were 1529 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:39,760 talking we got into a lot of the 1530 01:04:46,769 --> 01:04:44,410 Satanism MK ULTRA Nazis a lot of the 1531 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:46,779 stuff that i found out much later that I 1532 01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:49,450 realized I knew quite a bit about before 1533 01:04:53,609 --> 01:04:51,190 I even started talking to him about it 1534 01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:53,619 but as the evening progressed I started 1535 01:04:59,240 --> 01:04:56,559 getting a severe stomach ache and it was 1536 01:05:02,519 --> 01:04:59,250 very hard for me to talk and I realized 1537 01:05:04,589 --> 01:05:02,529 that something was going on on a deeper 1538 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:04,599 level with me because I don't get sick 1539 01:05:09,870 --> 01:05:07,210 like that but I'm around people I no 1540 01:05:12,450 --> 01:05:09,880 reason to um if something was going on 1541 01:05:14,999 --> 01:05:12,460 and by the time they left at three 1542 01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:15,009 o'clock in the morning I was not feeling 1543 01:05:20,849 --> 01:05:18,400 well I went to bed and it must have been 1544 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:20,859 about four hours later it was about 1545 01:05:25,170 --> 01:05:23,410 seven something I started to wake up and 1546 01:05:29,910 --> 01:05:25,180 this is where my whole life changed in 1547 01:05:33,059 --> 01:05:29,920 this moment I started having a waking 1548 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:33,069 vision of what I thought was a past 1549 01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:36,130 memory turns out it's some kind of 1550 01:05:42,749 --> 01:05:40,630 altered state and I went into this and 1551 01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:42,759 people say oh it is from an acid trip 1552 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:44,529 when you were a kid I don't think so 1553 01:05:49,950 --> 01:05:47,650 because here's what happens I'm kind of 1554 01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:49,960 vision myself the next thing I know I'm 1555 01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:52,809 in a room Max and I are naked and we're 1556 01:05:58,319 --> 01:05:56,079 kind of holding on to each other and we 1557 01:06:01,400 --> 01:05:58,329 obviously had been doing the nasty at 1558 01:06:04,620 --> 01:06:01,410 some point but in this instant I felt 1559 01:06:07,710 --> 01:06:04,630 like we were melting into each other and 1560 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:07,720 there was this an exchange of like 1561 01:06:13,710 --> 01:06:10,569 spiritual energy going on that was like 1562 01:06:17,099 --> 01:06:13,720 love beyond belief and I couldn't quite 1563 01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:17,109 place the feelings I was having but it 1564 01:06:21,779 --> 01:06:19,660 was bliss that's the best way to 1565 01:06:23,490 --> 01:06:21,789 describe it is total bliss and we're 1566 01:06:25,410 --> 01:06:23,500 just holding on to each other and 1567 01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:25,420 and we're in this very dark room we're 1568 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:27,430 on this bed we're naked you know 1569 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:29,050 everything's happening I'm thinking oh 1570 01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:33,910 this is a nice fantasy Yeah right the 1571 01:06:41,250 --> 01:06:38,470 next thing I know I am and I you know I 1572 01:06:43,020 --> 01:06:41,260 I always hesitate to say this because 1573 01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:43,030 people start thinking I'm a crazy lady 1574 01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:46,000 and you know they start saying I'm just 1575 01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:48,520 having weird fantasies and you know all 1576 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:50,590 kinds of flashbacks but I don't think so 1577 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:53,170 Eric I really don't know the next thing 1578 01:06:56,940 --> 01:06:55,330 I know is I'm naked I'm in a wooden 1579 01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:56,950 chair I'm strapped into it and I'm 1580 01:07:01,140 --> 01:06:59,680 screaming at the top of my lungs and I 1581 01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:01,150 think this is where the screaming came 1582 01:07:07,050 --> 01:07:04,240 from in and here's another part to it 1583 01:07:08,340 --> 01:07:07,060 all max is in front of me having sex 1584 01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:08,350 with other women i'm not going to go 1585 01:07:14,820 --> 01:07:11,320 into all the gory details but there are 1586 01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:14,830 guys in black uniforms at the far end of 1587 01:07:22,590 --> 01:07:19,960 the room and i know i'm in a castle type 1588 01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:22,600 of a big mansion type of situation in 1589 01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:26,920 Europe the windows I pulled out the 1590 01:07:31,650 --> 01:07:28,900 windows there a French Gothic style 1591 01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:31,660 window of the the dormitory it was more 1592 01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:34,000 like a little dormitory room with wood 1593 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:36,070 paneling and I know exactly what the 1594 01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:38,650 room looks like and I've done a huge 1595 01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:40,960 search on the the you know the 1596 01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:42,940 architecture the the years of the 1597 01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:46,150 architecture and the weirdest part to 1598 01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:49,120 all this is I can feel everything he's 1599 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:51,960 doing and he can feel everything i'm 1600 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:55,090 experiencing and it's like we're melted 1601 01:08:00,720 --> 01:07:57,370 together and i have since learned that 1602 01:08:02,970 --> 01:08:00,730 that's called a ended twinning process 1603 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:02,980 they take your now this is going to 1604 01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:04,690 sound even weirder to take your 1605 01:08:10,590 --> 01:08:07,630 spiritual soul and your energy field and 1606 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:10,600 they melt them together and I think they 1607 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:12,490 were testing it on us I don't know what 1608 01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:14,350 they were doing but it was very bizarre 1609 01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:16,980 that's all I can tell you and I can't 1610 01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:19,630 you have any idea how long the entire 1611 01:08:26,220 --> 01:08:22,960 interval was this whole incident how 1612 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:26,230 long it happened oh I this was a flash 1613 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:28,210 of him and I in this room that probably 1614 01:08:33,630 --> 01:08:30,730 lasted five to ten seconds in reality 1615 01:08:35,610 --> 01:08:33,640 and the other flash was 15 seconds all 1616 01:08:37,289 --> 01:08:35,620 to get okay okay now I mean this is 1617 01:08:39,149 --> 01:08:37,299 nothing like long-term but 1618 01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:39,159 I felt like I was living it at the time 1619 01:08:47,579 --> 01:08:45,369 while it was happening and i woke up and 1620 01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:47,589 i said woke up because suddenly the 1621 01:08:52,499 --> 01:08:49,839 rooms back i'm back in the room and I'm 1622 01:08:55,740 --> 01:08:52,509 there and I opened my eyes and I'm like 1623 01:08:59,099 --> 01:08:55,750 holy moly I realized that in that 1624 01:09:01,499 --> 01:08:59,109 flashback or memory or whatever it was 1625 01:09:04,289 --> 01:09:01,509 or implanted memory yeah it's another 1626 01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:04,299 thing I've come up with since then I was 1627 01:09:14,430 --> 01:09:09,190 17 and Max was 22 and I knew our ages at 1628 01:09:16,979 --> 01:09:14,440 the time so I'm third I'm 53 and he's 33 1629 01:09:20,849 --> 01:09:16,989 in this reality so how I was younger 1630 01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:20,859 than him I don't know but in my quest to 1631 01:09:25,799 --> 01:09:22,900 find out what's been going what happened 1632 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:25,809 to me why I had that vision or nightmare 1633 01:09:31,229 --> 01:09:28,210 or whatever you want to call it why any 1634 01:09:33,629 --> 01:09:31,239 of this has happened is I'm starting to 1635 01:09:35,789 --> 01:09:33,639 realize that they are able to take our 1636 01:09:39,599 --> 01:09:35,799 consciousness and put it into these 1637 01:09:41,579 --> 01:09:39,609 hollow deck kind of areas the aliens are 1638 01:09:44,069 --> 01:09:41,589 at least and I think our government is 1639 01:09:46,289 --> 01:09:44,079 able to do it as well and they may only 1640 01:09:48,599 --> 01:09:46,299 be able to do it through drugs in this 1641 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:48,609 this thing called a trip chair that the 1642 01:09:54,450 --> 01:09:52,449 Montauk boy supposedly were using they 1643 01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:54,460 may only be able to get us there 1644 01:09:59,160 --> 01:09:56,320 together if they have us both in the 1645 01:10:01,140 --> 01:09:59,170 same room and they can head your deines 1646 01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,150 and get our frequencies the same and 1647 01:10:05,310 --> 01:10:03,280 then do different things to us frequency 1648 01:10:07,740 --> 01:10:05,320 why's that make us have different types 1649 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:07,750 of experiences while in that state I 1650 01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:10,719 don't know I mean I'm just coming up 1651 01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:14,409 with every kind of scenario i can to 1652 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:16,270 explain what happened to me because 1653 01:10:20,069 --> 01:10:18,010 people say to me they say oh you 1654 01:10:22,169 --> 01:10:20,079 imagined it you made it up i said i 1655 01:10:24,930 --> 01:10:22,179 would never make up something like that 1656 01:10:29,180 --> 01:10:24,940 right how did you rule out a dream or a 1657 01:10:32,189 --> 01:10:29,190 lucid dream I I ruled it out because it 1658 01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:32,199 didn't have a dream feel to it it felt 1659 01:10:38,490 --> 01:10:35,199 like it okay real it felt like a memory 1660 01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:38,500 it did not feel like a dream okay that's 1661 01:10:46,350 --> 01:10:41,409 fair enough yeah so anyhow I was there 1662 01:10:48,089 --> 01:10:46,360 you go that is quiet now have so you had 1663 01:10:49,939 --> 01:10:48,099 that really so you have the first 1664 01:10:53,719 --> 01:10:49,949 incident where it was 1665 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:53,729 helicopter over your house correct okay 1666 01:10:58,279 --> 01:10:56,610 I'm California near San Francisco and 1667 01:11:03,080 --> 01:10:58,289 then you had the second incident at the 1668 01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:03,090 Airbnb house have you had more no but I 1669 01:11:12,350 --> 01:11:07,320 have seen a huge black triangle craft 1670 01:11:14,569 --> 01:11:12,360 come out of whatever decloaked there it 1671 01:11:16,549 --> 01:11:14,579 was I'm screaming at everybody in the 1672 01:11:20,209 --> 01:11:16,559 parking lot look like and one other 1673 01:11:21,799 --> 01:11:20,219 woman saw it with me thank God and I saw 1674 01:11:25,609 --> 01:11:21,809 this thing and then it took off like a 1675 01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:25,619 bat out of you know what and it it was 1676 01:11:34,129 --> 01:11:31,289 amazing so why are my memories or non 1677 01:11:36,919 --> 01:11:34,139 memories or implants or mind control or 1678 01:11:40,759 --> 01:11:36,929 whatever they've done to me why are they 1679 01:11:42,529 --> 01:11:40,769 there because they have nothing to do 1680 01:11:44,299 --> 01:11:42,539 with you if I was an alien so why in the 1681 01:11:47,649 --> 01:11:44,309 heck was there a UFO involved in my 1682 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:47,659 second suppose Adela copter incident and 1683 01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:51,090 why are there UFO showing up now what if 1684 01:11:57,919 --> 01:11:55,440 they got to do i form a basis and I good 1685 01:12:01,699 --> 01:11:57,929 this is just so freakin bizarre you know 1686 01:12:05,180 --> 01:12:01,709 it makes me wonder if you're I mean one 1687 01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:05,190 possibility is that you're a threat that 1688 01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:09,900 has to be you know surveilled and the 1689 01:12:13,939 --> 01:12:12,030 other possibility is that you're part of 1690 01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:13,949 an ongoing experiment that has to be 1691 01:12:18,979 --> 01:12:16,559 observed and those are the two thoughts 1692 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:18,989 that come to my mind and it could all be 1693 01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:21,090 terrestrial or it could all or it could 1694 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:24,719 be a mixture I certainly do not believe 1695 01:12:30,049 --> 01:12:27,570 we're the only sentient living things in 1696 01:12:31,779 --> 01:12:30,059 the entire universe so I have no problem 1697 01:12:34,759 --> 01:12:31,789 believing there's other folks out there 1698 01:12:38,779 --> 01:12:34,769 so I sort of come down but that you're 1699 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:38,789 it's either an experiment or or you 1700 01:12:46,939 --> 01:12:43,050 represent a threat but probably I think 1701 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:46,949 more of an experiment because I mean it 1702 01:12:53,989 --> 01:12:50,130 it certainly sounds doable sounds doable 1703 01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,999 right here yessum was some of the 1704 01:12:59,209 --> 01:12:56,400 research I've read you know we can we 1705 01:13:02,520 --> 01:12:59,219 can implant thoroughly believable 1706 01:13:05,550 --> 01:13:02,530 memories Justin Justin session but 1707 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:05,560 are using any technology so implanted 1708 01:13:10,710 --> 01:13:08,290 memories or variable you know believable 1709 01:13:13,710 --> 01:13:10,720 look the wrong term to use because they 1710 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:13,720 are believable it would be really 1711 01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:15,450 interesting if they're using 1712 01:13:21,090 --> 01:13:18,960 instrumentation or something else 1713 01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:21,100 absolutely that's one of the things I'm 1714 01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:23,830 interested in is you know can we are to 1715 01:13:29,370 --> 01:13:26,560 develop that skill or is there a 1716 01:13:31,950 --> 01:13:29,380 technology that would do it because 1717 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:31,960 you're right our brains operate at well 1718 01:13:36,450 --> 01:13:34,290 different parts of our brain are 1719 01:13:38,490 --> 01:13:36,460 operating at different frequencies at 1720 01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:38,500 different times you know when you're 1721 01:13:43,770 --> 01:13:40,960 asleep your entire brain is almost in 1722 01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:43,780 delta wave your but when you're awake 1723 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:45,760 it's complicated if you I don't know it 1724 01:13:53,180 --> 01:13:49,330 you ever seen an EKG print out yes yeah 1725 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:53,190 yeah and that's just with 23 I think of 1726 01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:57,610 sensors and that so there's 23 areas all 1727 01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:02,080 doing something different so sure why 1728 01:14:07,530 --> 01:14:05,260 not and are you worried it's are you 1729 01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:07,540 worried it's going to happen again no 1730 01:14:13,380 --> 01:14:11,200 not at all as a matter of fact this is 1731 01:14:17,130 --> 01:14:13,390 important at do we have only a few 1732 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:17,140 minutes left in the show I I have to ask 1733 01:14:22,590 --> 01:14:20,410 MJ I don't even what time is it staring 1734 01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:22,600 up I'm staring at the magic screen we 1735 01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:24,400 have about three and a half minutes left 1736 01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:28,480 but oh oh wait listen I just wanted to 1737 01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:31,120 say that i am not worried about anything 1738 01:14:36,060 --> 01:14:33,910 at all anymore and I feel absolutely in 1739 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:36,070 control and I don't feel like anybody's 1740 01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:40,290 messing with me anymore because I um I 1741 01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:44,910 really went to a very spiritual place 1742 01:14:49,380 --> 01:14:47,500 coming out of all this it took me about 1743 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:49,390 three months to get over what had 1744 01:14:53,330 --> 01:14:51,010 happened then it took me nine months to 1745 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:53,340 be pissed off and start a conference 1746 01:14:58,410 --> 01:14:56,650 don't attract at them yeah back at them 1747 01:15:02,040 --> 01:14:58,420 for what they've done to me that in my 1748 01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:02,050 mind anyhow I angry it is I absolutely 1749 01:15:06,150 --> 01:15:04,150 agree i think people get cancer a lot 1750 01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:06,160 because they don't embrace their anger 1751 01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:11,350 so um anyhow I really begged God whether 1752 01:15:16,350 --> 01:15:14,350 it be the god of old God now angels 1753 01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,360 demons I don't care what it is I begged 1754 01:15:22,260 --> 01:15:18,640 whatever energy field was out there that 1755 01:15:25,260 --> 01:15:22,270 protects us to help me and I absolutely 1756 01:15:27,630 --> 01:15:25,270 believe he sent protection and I feel 1757 01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:27,640 very protected on a daily basis my mind 1758 01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:30,340 is at ease I I have no problems around 1759 01:15:34,170 --> 01:15:31,780 any of this at all and I have no 1760 01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:34,180 problems talking about it and I 1761 01:15:39,810 --> 01:15:36,910 absolutely believe that this this could 1762 01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:39,820 be real on a very you know tangible 1763 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:41,680 level like I'm holding onto the table 1764 01:15:46,710 --> 01:15:43,810 and it could be something that is very 1765 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:46,720 ethereal that we don't understand that's 1766 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:48,970 going on as well so something very 1767 01:15:54,570 --> 01:15:51,970 slippery exactly and you know and people 1768 01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:54,580 have to understand that you know you can 1769 01:15:58,980 --> 01:15:56,710 have all these experiences and still be 1770 01:16:01,440 --> 01:15:58,990 a normal person and run your normal life 1771 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,450 but you have to you have to know that 1772 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:03,280 you're in control because see I think 1773 01:16:08,190 --> 01:16:05,890 most people out there like the the Naval 1774 01:16:10,050 --> 01:16:08,200 Yard shooter Aaron alexis is poor kid at 1775 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:10,060 the theater what have you they were all 1776 01:16:13,890 --> 01:16:12,250 under some kind of mind control also 1777 01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:13,900 when you look at people like that you 1778 01:16:18,330 --> 01:16:16,630 see the most important thing that we 1779 01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:18,340 wanted that well we don't want to see 1780 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:19,510 but we know we're going to see in a 1781 01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:21,910 person that is that has a disorder 1782 01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:24,550 that's impairment he you know this is 1783 01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:27,520 not the got like the Aurora shooter this 1784 01:16:31,370 --> 01:16:28,900 is not a guy who's going to go out and 1785 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:31,380 get a job he is crazy all the time 1786 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:33,850 gangster he's thoroughly impaired it's 1787 01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:35,770 gets a friend it can't hold a 1788 01:16:42,410 --> 01:16:39,280 conversation so you're normal and accept 1789 01:16:45,870 --> 01:16:42,420 you had these two abnormal experiences 1790 01:16:50,220 --> 01:16:45,880 so it's not it i mean it's i don't think 1791 01:16:52,350 --> 01:16:50,230 it's mental illness because you're 1792 01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:52,360 there's no impairment you lead on an 1793 01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,360 otherwise normal life so what it leaves 1794 01:17:03,690 --> 01:16:57,840 you with are a lot of questions 1795 01:17:05,550 --> 01:17:03,700 absolutely absolutely also you're not 1796 01:17:08,430 --> 01:17:05,560 grandiose you're not telling us that 1797 01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:08,440 your God and you and you know your other 1798 01:17:12,450 --> 01:17:10,600 chosen one is these things have you you 1799 01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:12,460 seem to have taken everything at face 1800 01:17:17,730 --> 01:17:14,710 value you haven't really added or 1801 01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:17,740 subtracted from it yeah yeah that sounds 1802 01:17:26,130 --> 01:17:20,950 and that's normal too oh thank you thank 1803 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:26,140 you lee pretty normal today oh yeah the 1804 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:29,650 reactions were normals thank you i would 1805 01:17:34,530 --> 01:17:32,290 not handle it as well as you did I would 1806 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:34,540 have dug a basement or at least half 1807 01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:36,130 under the bed I don't know see that's 1808 01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:37,990 what about these things happening to 1809 01:17:42,330 --> 01:17:39,760 people and they don't know how to handle 1810 01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:42,340 it and thank God my life and my parents 1811 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:44,470 you know we're really strong people and 1812 01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:46,570 raised me that hey your mind is in 1813 01:17:50,820 --> 01:17:48,460 control my father's always said that to 1814 01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:50,830 me you know so it's very interesting 1815 01:17:58,670 --> 01:17:57,040 that my dear they're all happy father 1816 01:18:01,050 --> 01:17:58,680 would have been a good existentialist 1817 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:01,060 and we're out of show but I you know I 1818 01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:02,650 don't know what he looks like but i 1819 01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:05,710 think i will come back sometime and when 1820 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:08,470 we can dig into it oh my dreams i love 1821 01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:11,410 you Eric that would be great that time 1822 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:14,320 i'll do some research and men and make 1823 01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,440 some phone calls to some some folks I 1824 01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:19,600 know here and there but someone else 1825 01:18:25,710 --> 01:18:23,320 places so that the I anyway thank you 1826 01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:25,720 for being on this evening and there is 1827 01:18:31,290 --> 01:18:27,580 knowledge there's not a show next week 1828 01:18:32,970 --> 01:18:31,300 so but there will be one the fall and we 1829 01:18:37,050 --> 01:18:32,980 can if their isn't they did come and get 1830 01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:37,060 me be sure folks to stay tuned at nine 1831 01:18:45,210 --> 01:18:40,150 o'clock for the oh my gosh my memory is 1832 01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:45,220 going to it's the John the John Ford oh 1833 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:47,800 I forgot oh well I apologize for them 1834 01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:50,890 it's I don't remember and we're out of 1835 01:18:56,700 --> 01:18:53,920 time weird story it's good part Tuesday 1836 01:18:59,220 --> 01:18:56,710 my part to part two of the jaw on 1837 01:19:01,650 --> 01:18:59,230 forward something or anyway I'll see you 1838 01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:01,660 folks in two weeks thank you for for 1839 01:19:04,830 --> 01:19:03,070 joining us and thank you lori ann for 1840 01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:04,840 taking the top I'm to tell you sorry I 1841 01:19:10,170 --> 01:19:07,270 really appreciate it and I will see 1842 01:19:12,060 --> 01:19:10,180 everybody in two weeks you folks have a